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Just found the post from @pluralistic recalling his 2004 talk about #DRM at Microsoft Research. Reminded me of the two years I spent before that working for Nokia on industry standards for DRM in the old Open Mobile Alliance. We soon learned why the MS guys stood at the back of the room chuckling (and why Apple never attended) https://pluralistic.net/2024/06/18/greetings-fellow-pirates/#arrrrrrrrrr

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a great opportunity to travel the world on the company dime and hear that the Universal Music rep thought all mobile customers were just a bunch of pirates