eYou promises to change social media. But the alternatives already exist
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/44588140
eYou promises to change social media. But the alternatives already exist
Mastodon, Lemmy and Pixelfed already exist. Why is no one talking about them?Dorian Diaconu (doriandiaconuro)
davel
in reply to nasquamesse • • •Because, unlike eYou, they don’t have €300K in seed capital. The fediverse has no marketing department and a €0 ad-spend budget.
sidebro
in reply to davel • • •malean
in reply to davel • • •davel
in reply to malean • • •sakuraba
in reply to malean • • •well yeah back then most sites didn't have marketing like we do now
and the only reason 4chan blew up was thanks to that fox news tv report that called it the "internet hate machine"
mr_anny
in reply to nasquamesse • • •One thing that could combat big tech platforms would be one singular fediverse app with somewhat respective name to it.
The problem for mass adoption is scattered ways to connect. People in general want thingsa simple. Like FB is FB every way you want to use it.
Second thing would be to lure idols in fediverse and their flocs would follow.
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I saw the frustration in my wife's face when I tried to get her in. I dropped reddit for Lemmy and therefore I use this app called Voyager and I connected it in sopuli.xyz.
She was like excuse me what?
Then I explained this is my way, you can have bunch of other apps and connect to other instances and you can read posts from other platforms too.
She was like excuse me what?
Aaaand then there is this Pixelfed, Mastodon, Friendica and and and.. with apps these and these.
Week after that she managed to install Voyager, connected it in some instance and read things.
She still uses big tech platforms as "there's no one here".
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eYou could be the one for precisely those masses that need it fucking simple. They *have made their head dumber with algorithms.
DominusOfMegadeus
in reply to mr_anny • • •Soapbox
in reply to nasquamesse • • •What we really need is an alternative to the the original functionality of Facebook.
Staying connected with real life friends, family, and acquaintances.
Social event planning, sharing life photos, sharing life updates, hell even marketplace.
All the federated "alternatives" are basically twitter clones, which really is a very different thing at its core. I do not want to share family photos and life updates with the whole fucking planet. Just the 500ish people I "know" in real life. I also don't want to see tweet like mastodon posts in my friend feed. Its a different thing.
I know friendica is supposed to be that, but in my experience, its slow as hell, and just feels like a weird overlay on mastodon.
frozenspinach
in reply to Soapbox • • •I recently came across an essay that basically argued we should separate "social media" from "attention media", as the latter is what these places has morphed into.
I think that's exactly right. The one caveat I would throw in is that the federated alternatives are solving a slightly different problem, namely centralization. And that in and of it self did, at least at first, genuinely recreate a feel everyone recognized as belonging to a prior era of the internet. A different structure of who ones it, stopping the network from being bent toward monetization. That's a real thing.
It's easy to be jaded by BlueSky in particular because it effectively ate Mastodon's lunch and got its attention, while not truly being federated or leading to any culture reset. And perhaps more importantly. BlueSky appealed I think to an aesthetic curiosity more than a philosophical purpose, so I think it gives people the wrong impression of what the fediverse is all about.
I agree that Frendica sucks. For the longest time these alternatives were designed appallingly bad. Mastodon was t
... Show more...I recently came across an essay that basically argued we should separate "social media" from "attention media", as the latter is what these places has morphed into.
I think that's exactly right. The one caveat I would throw in is that the federated alternatives are solving a slightly different problem, namely centralization. And that in and of it self did, at least at first, genuinely recreate a feel everyone recognized as belonging to a prior era of the internet. A different structure of who ones it, stopping the network from being bent toward monetization. That's a real thing.
It's easy to be jaded by BlueSky in particular because it effectively ate Mastodon's lunch and got its attention, while not truly being federated or leading to any culture reset. And perhaps more importantly. BlueSky appealed I think to an aesthetic curiosity more than a philosophical purpose, so I think it gives people the wrong impression of what the fediverse is all about.
I agree that Frendica sucks. For the longest time these alternatives were designed appallingly bad. Mastodon was the first case of non-stupid design, quickly followed by Lemmy, Pixelfed and Loops. An era of devs who know what they're doing on the design side, at least to a much greater degree than before.
Soapbox
in reply to frozenspinach • • •That would be the dream for sure.
frozenspinach
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