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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

An actually interesting use of artificial intelligence being able to accomplish something, when put in the hands of expert mathematicians. Definitely a lot of coaxing it back to doing the task correctly but it is pretty cool that it can solve problems (even if they are math nerd ones) in a way that are independently verifiable.
in reply to Rentlar

In the hands of experts these are definitely useful. I’ve always felt that.

Ai should be used to augment humans, not replace them.

Unfortunately we have idiots making decisions looking at the sycophant BS machine without knowing what the job actually does

in reply to panda_abyss

The problem is always techbros. Large Language Models, Deep Learning, these kinds of things are potentially valuable when put to work in the right arena.

A techbro will never put them in the right arena. It's always a false promise built on flimsy reputational credit.

in reply to All Ice In Chains

Techbros are the result of the capitalist mode of production. You have to get rid of capitalism to get rid of techbros.
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in reply to Scrubbles

Remember when they built a $50 billion server farm in my back yard to run a GUI IDE?

I think your attitude toward AI in the abstract is pretty good, it matches my experience in tech, but also theres something much larger going on here

in reply to Juice

That's fair. A huge difference is how much money is behind the crazy hype machine, and how desperate they are to keep the hype going. Most actual tech people I know, work with, and are connected with in the field have normalized on tech usage. Knowing when to use it and when not to use it. It's only the tech bros at the top who are still like "Yeah bro it's totally going to get rid of labor bro we're all gonna have androids who do all the work bro just trust me just 200 billion more dollars bro I promise"
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in reply to panda_abyss

Hot take: AI is not the enemy; capitalism is.
in reply to sveltecider

You can read Marx's chapters on technology in Capital volume 1, and what he describes from his own time about how tech is developed and for whose benefit and specifically how it has to exploit workers in order to be useful to capital; it matches so closely with the development of AI that we are seeing.
in reply to sveltecider

Yes.

I'd feel a lot less annoyed at my code being used to train the AI (without my consent) if the AI's benefits weren't funnelled into private pockets.

I'd feel a lot less annoyed at AI if it wasn't constantly use to replace jobs and then fail at it. Actually, AI isn't replacing jobs, it's being used as an excuse to do layoffs while pretending your company is being innovative, so as not to scare off investors.

Without a profit motive there wouldn't be ChatGPT Health, which is just faking medical skills while being wrong as often as a coin toss, in exchange for money. If I did that I'd be sued for negligence and/or fraud.

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in reply to sveltecider

Exactly, when you dig into all the complaints people have about this tech, they're ultimately just symptoms of the underlying capitalist relations.
in reply to Rentlar

There's no actual "AI" involved here. Mathematicians have been using computational methods since they invented the computer. These results are just a natural continuation of decades of work.

But no. There's no Johnny 5 inside this program.

in reply to technocrit

Well just like a MATLAB plotting program "draws" lines and curves and stuff, Claude is a programs that puts together various reasonings based on the mathematician's input.
in reply to Rentlar

Various weighted statistical guesses based on token input and n-dimensional matrix weighted output. Not reasoning per se. You are handed the ingredients to make bread with no instructions, you'll eventually make bread, statistically.
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Ok I for one was not expecting anything useful to come out of these tools
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in reply to kryptonianCodeMonkey

Yeah, to be fair I’ve had them do some pretty incredible stuff. I often need to spend some time finding its mistakes, making it fix them, refining my own verbiage, and coaching how it should be responding (so it doesn’t overwhelm itself). But it’s definitely helped me finish a month of work in a week.
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It's the exact same tool that people have been using for decades: a computer.
in reply to technocrit

A computer implies a certain degree of determinism. i.e. whatever it can do, a human has programmed it to do. Except for speeding up calculations (simulations), it didn't aid in a somewhat creative and direct manner like this.
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