CoMaps is a fork by some contributors after the Organic Maps started going a bit closed source, a weird company dynamic, also introduced "links not adverts" with Kayak . Organic Maps is a fork of Maps.me when it started going a bit closed source and displaying hotels as adverts. ∞
Add an experimental referral link "Details on KAYAK" to hotels on the map. KAYAK is a metasearch engine that aggregates hundreds of travel sites at once to find the best deals on the hote...
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Here we goooooooooo! Apple is becoming a trash advert company like google with no openness, and google is becoming a walled garden like Apple, but no privacy.
We just need a reliable way to actually get traffic data that doesn't involve either! Believe it or not Comaps or Organic maps works really well! It takes an extra min or two to route your drive if you need to funnel your desired route in a certain direction, but it's 100% functional
Is there any technical reason it cannot be done in a privacy respecting manner? It should be possible to collect a location and speed from a phone with absolutely no other data attached from the device and store this in a database. This would provide a database of anonymous traffic density in a state of flux. You cannot see which phone is which data point, where it is coming from or where it is going to.
The only real reason I can see this is not done is surveillance capitalism.
Barely 40 trackers blocked on Bloomberg trying to load that article (thanks uBlock Origin, running on my Firefox-based browser), to finally being told I can't read the article without subscribing. Ads and marketing money have destroyed that Web we once owned.
Why would Apple be different than Bloomberg, they too like money. And none will get my money, or time and attention.
What are you even using to replace Apple Maps though? Google Maps is in an even more advanced level of enshittification and has had ads for years now, and Here Wego, while good, doesn’t have enough content to effectively replace Apple or Gmaps.
When you search for a restaurant for example the top results are ads. Also, sometimes while riding your car you get a sound notification that “there is this restaurant just around the corner”.
Wild that you’ve never seen any, they are definitely there.
Em Adespoton
in reply to ray • • •And I move more to using OpenStreets, Organic Maps and Sidekick Pro.
Shame that Apple’s going the same way as Google.
raicon
in reply to Em Adespoton • • •modeh
in reply to raicon • • •raicon
in reply to modeh • • •How does the CoMaps project differ from Organic Maps and Maps.Me?
Unlike Organic Maps
CoMaps is "owned" by a not-for-profit co-op, and fully volunteer-driven by the community. The project operates by these principles:
You can learn more about our governance approaches on Codeberg.
The structure is intended so the app and assets cannot be sold for profit. The community actively participate in decisionmaking and governance.
comaps.app/support/how-does-th…
How does the CoMaps project differ from Organic Maps and Maps.Me?
www.comaps.app73QjabParc34Vebq
in reply to modeh • • •CoMaps is a fork by some contributors after the Organic Maps started going a bit closed source, a weird company dynamic, also introduced "links not adverts" with Kayak . Organic Maps is a fork of Maps.me when it started going a bit closed source and displaying hotels as adverts. ∞
comaps.app/news/2025-04-16/1/
github.com/organicmaps/organic…
[android][ios] Add "Details on KAYAK" button to hotels by rtsisyk · Pull Request #6523 · organicmaps/organicmaps
GitHubray
in reply to Em Adespoton • • •What is Sidekick Pro?
LadyMeow
in reply to ray • • •Ahhhhhhhhhh. Here we goooooooooo! Apple is becoming a trash advert company like google with no openness, and google is becoming a walled garden like Apple, but no privacy.
Kill me
Broiled_Tofu
in reply to ray • • •Specter
in reply to Broiled_Tofu • • •GraveyardOrbit
in reply to Broiled_Tofu • • •ExcessShiv
in reply to GraveyardOrbit • • •Is there any technical reason it cannot be done in a privacy respecting manner? It should be possible to collect a location and speed from a phone with absolutely no other data attached from the device and store this in a database. This would provide a database of anonymous traffic density in a state of flux. You cannot see which phone is which data point, where it is coming from or where it is going to.
The only real reason I can see this is not done is surveillance capitalism.
Libb
in reply to ray • • •Barely 40 trackers blocked on Bloomberg trying to load that article (thanks uBlock Origin, running on my Firefox-based browser), to finally being told I can't read the article without subscribing. Ads and marketing money have destroyed that Web we once owned.
Why would Apple be different than Bloomberg, they too like money.
And none will get my money, or time and attention.
Waterfox - Open source web browser
BrowserWorksSpecter
in reply to Libb • • •utopiah
in reply to ray • • •Specter
in reply to utopiah • • •What are you even using to replace Apple Maps though? Google Maps is in an even more advanced level of enshittification and has had ads for years now, and Here Wego, while good, doesn’t have enough content to effectively replace Apple or Gmaps.
Perspective from someone in Europe.
nelson
in reply to Specter • • •There's comaps. Which is good, but doesn't have the same amount of content. It's not exactly barren either.
It also doesn't have all the whistle and bells as gmaps. ( like RTT, estimating traffic if you would leave on a certain day at a certain time, ... )
utopiah
in reply to Specter • • •Auli
in reply to Specter • • •Specter
in reply to Auli • • •When you search for a restaurant for example the top results are ads. Also, sometimes while riding your car you get a sound notification that “there is this restaurant just around the corner”.
Wild that you’ve never seen any, they are definitely there.
Goldenring
in reply to Specter • • •