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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Meanwhile, Tump fired the entire national science board
in reply to Akh

Kid Rock is working on a new battery. Game changer.
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Revolutionary new battery idea that will overtake lithium ion huh? Throw it on the pile
in reply to huquad

For grid-storage they may very well be...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_red…
is e.g. in place in Sacramaneto, CA with a storage of 2 GWh and a maximum power of 200 MW.
For grid-storage durability and ovrerall cost efficiency are more important than energy density so I expect redox flow batteries to overtake lithium ion based batteries there.
in reply to diykeyboards

Ehh I follow the battery news well enough to know it's different this time.

The way you can tell is that it isn't coming from the MIT press release department.

in reply to TropicalDingdong

Honestly, it's a good time for batteries and solar panels.

I think we're just going to let out current infrastructure rot out from under us and while house generators run on gas.

I mean, we could modernize our infrastructure, but we can barely keep bridges standing and I'm not sure if utilities are communism or not. I suspect that they are.

The lithium iron phosphate is already pretty impressive, just a bit pricey.

in reply to BeMoreCareful

Anything "flow" is going to be game changing to an extent I think let readers really barely understand. It turns energy storage into something as boring and understood as the refrigeration cycle. Flow means storage at scale becomes trivial.
in reply to HaraldvonBlauzahn

intelmarketresearch.com/ion-ex…
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

The actual story buried at the end of a Sino #1 article-

In the United States, companies like Oregon-based ESS Tech Inc. are already deploying iron flow systems for tech giants like Google.

However, some of these existing designs could struggle with “dendrites” — tiny, needle-like crystals that can short-circuit the battery. The Chinese team believes they have leapfrogged these hurdles by using an alkaline-based chemistry and their new molecular “shield.”

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Weird how China is always inventing things that already exist.

It's almost like all they do is copy others.

These types of batteries have been in use for a while they're just not that common as they take up a LOT of space, and there are better options that use less space.

in reply to HiTekRedNek

They seem to have tackled the issue of dendrite forming.
That would reduce maintenance on iron redox flow batteries sigificantly if true.
in reply to HiTekRedNek

Spamoflage

I'm starting to see that China may have a large presence on lemmy. It would make sense with the .ml groups. You can see a lot of pro China stuff here plus lemmy is a generator against things like AI which benefits China.

in reply to Melvin_Ferd

If you don't want to see so much China and Russia-glazing, just block yogthos and jackeroni, that should cut it down about 40%. I personally don't mind agendaposting because I can tell from the get-go who it's coming from. There are prolific anti-China agendaposters too, for example from an account named Scotty.
in reply to Melvin_Ferd

If people who enjoy futuristic tech and hate AI slop are now on the side of China, sign my ass up
in reply to RiverRock

I think they are. I think tech forums are essentially places to convince people to hate tech. Hate progress. Meanwhile other countries embrace these new technologies and develop, build and iterate.
in reply to Melvin_Ferd

Meanwhile other countries embrace these new technologies and develop, build and iterate.


Like China?

in reply to HiTekRedNek

Weird how Americans have such poor reading comprehension. Oh wait, I guess it's your education system.
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Ooohhhh revolutionary battery article #15592508

I'm sure this one won't be bullshit and will come into production tomorrow, right?

in reply to Phoenixz

the article literally links to how BYD is putting this stuff into production interestingengineering.com/ene…
in reply to Phoenixz

This is just a shallow, cynical, anti-intellectual remark.

Sodium ion batteries are already hitting production.

Iron flow and vanadium redox batteries also already exist in the real world.

Grid and residential battery installations are happening at a rapidly accelerating pace.

Lithium ion battery prices have dropped something like 90% over the last 15 years.

Battery technology is improving at dramatic rate, both lithium ion and non lithium ion solutions.