I really think it'll depend on how bad the employment situation gets. At some point people are going to start realizing they're not temporarily inconvenienced billionaires, and that their interests aren't aligned with the oligarchs. Software devs have been largely insulated from general economic problems until recently. Getting a job has been relatively easy, the pay was way above what most people make, and that fed individualistic behavior. Now that jobs are becoming scarce, and there's a huge pool of laid off workers, people are starting to get concerned.
those conditions describe the entirety of the united states and, yet, unionization is still abysmally weak.
and i would expect that an entire field whose members have prided themselves on anti-collectivization would be less apt to adopt a union than any other field.
to be fair: i agree that it will happen eventually, but it'll come at a time after the americans vote out their political duopoly like the mexicans did to their duopoly back in 2018.
I love the couple days a week I don’t have to work with software developers, in my experience they generally have a god complex comparable to surgeons, so good luck to the unemployed software developers starting a union I suppose because any of them that stay employed are just going to grow their ego further until it crumbles on top of them.
At some point people are going to start realizing they’re not temporarily inconvenienced billionaires
Hahaha, so accurate. The psychological poisoning seems so effective on many levels, like those on welfare voting against their own interests as they know they're just one lottery ticket or get rich quick scam away from financial freedom. Or the billionaires that think they're one harebrained scheme away from becoming a god-king.
To all those who vehemently shouted me down when I pointed out how utterly stupid an idea this was when they announced it, who were convinced that the amount of money they were throwing at it garaunteed success, I issue a heartfelt: ha. ha.
Reddit had plenty of shills. Hell like a month or two ago when they announced another setback there were people here saying it was a good idea but they had given up on it.
Also I could also say something like “for those that shot me down for saying the earth isn’t flat, suck it!”. While those people do exist they are an insignificant minority
that was just a play so clueless speculators think that facebook is still a growth company, justifying their insane P/E. it don't matter the money "burned" as long the derivatives are booming. they didn't lose shit, this don't touch them in the slightest.
even now, this isn't pushed as defeat, it's used as an opportunity to bolster their new play - ai.
theutz
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •this will never happen in the current landscape; it's controlled by libertarian & neoliberal people who detest collectivism in all of its forms.
and toxically so, my psychological well being has improve dramatically ever since leaving the field.
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •those conditions describe the entirety of the united states and, yet, unionization is still abysmally weak.
and i would expect that an entire field whose members have prided themselves on anti-collectivization would be less apt to adopt a union than any other field.
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •Hahaha, so accurate. The psychological poisoning seems so effective on many levels, like those on welfare voting against their own interests as they know they're just one lottery ticket or get rich quick scam away from financial freedom. Or the billionaires that think they're one harebrained scheme away from becoming a god-king.
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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in reply to ParlimentOfDoom • • •ParlimentOfDoom
in reply to CouldntCareBear • • •Reddit had plenty of shills. Hell like a month or two ago when they announced another setback there were people here saying it was a good idea but they had given up on it.
So, I do.
JimmyMcGill
in reply to ParlimentOfDoom • • •Ever thought about that those could be bots??
Also I could also say something like “for those that shot me down for saying the earth isn’t flat, suck it!”. While those people do exist they are an insignificant minority
ParlimentOfDoom
in reply to JimmyMcGill • • •Bots weren't that fluent yet.
You could certainly say that. It would be weirder if it was the majority of people. See how stupid this argument you're making is?
treadful
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •You're telling me businesses didn't want to hold meetings in Second Life and consumers didn't want Facebook harvesting data?
I'm shocked, I say. Shocked!
hash
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •that was just a play so clueless speculators think that facebook is still a growth company, justifying their insane P/E. it don't matter the money "burned" as long the derivatives are booming. they didn't lose shit, this don't touch them in the slightest.
even now, this isn't pushed as defeat, it's used as an opportunity to bolster their new play - ai.
bitwolf
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