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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

We are at levels not even styropyro can compete with

What does a microwave weapon do?

Edit: can jam drone signals etc

I thought at first, it could pop people like a kitten in a microwave

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in reply to FunkyCheese

like a kitten in a microwave


Wtf is this something you do?!

in reply to FunkyCheese

Maybe I’m too old to have heard that. Or it’s geographical. Since I’m not familiar with that - it sounded like your nonchalant attitude simply meant you had tried that before lol
in reply to FunkyCheese

pop people like a kitten in a microwave


Does a kitten really pop in a microwave?
I would expect it to just boil as things normally do.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

can disrupt or damage Starlink satellites


Mr. Xi, fire when ready.

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in reply to onlinepersona

Oooooo. Wow ppl really just gonna hate everything he touches eh?

Remind me why. Is it mainly because of his attempt to reduce government spending, his views on trans, his Asperger’s, or his odd approach to reproducing with women?

SpaceX has 10k employees that aren’t Elon ya know.

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in reply to locuester

I already see this is going to be a fruitless discussion with those proposed discussion points. "His attempt to reduce government spending" 🤣 "attempt".
in reply to onlinepersona

not even sure what you’re laughing abt. but fair to say it’s not going to be fruitful given this response.
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in reply to locuester

He didn't do anything to reduce government spending other than dismantling agencies investigating him for malfeasance. That was a lazy cover to steal government data while simultaneously destroying any accountability for his crimes.
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in reply to locuester

Him being a nazi pedophile is probably what most people take issue with.
in reply to QinShiHuangsShlong

Yes I understand that’s the party line. I was hoping for something more concrete but now it feels like this is being answered in bad faith so we can shut it down
in reply to locuester

What party line? It's the truth? He's in the Epstein files begging to go "party" on the island. He hit multiple nazi salutes on camera. It's not a line it's a statement of fact Elon Musk is a nazi pedophile.

Bad faith is when people point out my idol is fucking evil.
in reply to QinShiHuangsShlong

I genuinely saw the man making a hand gesture out to all the people. I didn’t see, nor have I even seen, any sign or symptom that he’s actually a Nazi.

The pedo thing, eh that’s pretty inconclusive that he was touching underage women because he asked to go to a party imo. I prefer a bit more damning evidence.

The man isn’t my idol. I hate a lot of his personal life and the way he appears to treat woman.

I truly am thinking independently, and I understand that your view on the world is different. Is this all it takes for you to say pedo Nazi or is there more?

in reply to locuester

I was hoping you were genuinely concerned about the most effective and equitable solution to get such an important utility to as many people as possible but clearly you're just here to defend the weird billionaire
in reply to gucken

I am concerned. I didn’t bring up billionaire. I just wonder why we damn a whole company of 10k ppl doing cool science shit because we don’t like the CEO.
in reply to locuester

Because the product those 10k built is polluting space, is a tool for US imperialism (see Ukraine and Iran) and inefficient at that
in reply to locuester

I don't think you can call something that can be shut down by a single company "global internet"

I have problems with the satellites sure, but fundamentally the whole premise is flawed.

Also spacex isn't exactly doing great ok engineering compared to ULA and other industry leaders. Feels a bit weird to put them on a pedestal.

in reply to locuester

He's a white supremacist who grew up in apartheid South Africa, comes from a family of racists (look up his grandfather, Elon is doing everything he can to carry on his legacy), and regularly promotes racist conspiracy theories. If you genuinely haven't seen any signs that he's a Nazi then you haven't been fucking paying attention.
in reply to locuester

Please just go back to Reddit. You're just here to try to wreck this community, and we all know it.
in reply to DeepSpace9mm

I’m sorry you feel this way. I haven’t been on reddit in years. I’ll limit or block Lemmy.ml, tension high af in here. Clearly I wandered into an echo chamber I don’t belong in!
in reply to locuester

It's not that you don't belong, it's that you engage in rhetorical strategies that are emotionally abusive while writing apologia for nazis.

It's just the paradox of tolerance. If we tolerate Nazi apologia, that's all the site will become (just like Twitter). If I were a mod, your comments defending musk's Nazi salute would be deleted and you would be permanently banned, but I'm not a mod. So, I'm asking nicely.

in reply to locuester

his Asperger’s


As an autistic person, don't you FUCKING DARE defend his use of that fucking card for the horrible way he acts.

in reply to HiddenLayer555

I’m using it as part of a question, asking if it’s his socially awkward behavior that makes him disliked. That’s all. That’s what I wrote. No need to rip your britches.
in reply to onlinepersona

I also have a problem with overengineered inferior solutions to investing in improving and expanding what is cheap and works very well and that will negatively impact future space projects.

You know, his entire shtick.

in reply to locuester

I’ll let someone much smarter than me speak to this:

youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeG…

in reply to kibiz0r

Huge fan of Alec, seen most his vids and yeah I caught that earlier this week, including the full ending.

I agree with and love every bit of that video except for that part about Starlink. Everything in his video aligns with my view of the world and I learned a ton of stuff as well, but I feel like this one I would have to sit down and think about a lot more.

It seemed out of place in the video in fact. I brushed it off and didn’t go further down the rabbit hole, but nothing he said changes my mind immediately on this particular matter. Everything else in the video made total sense and easily defensible.

I am realizing now that perhaps this was simply a cheap jab at Elon - Just because everyone hates Elon right now. You have me thinking and maybe I’ll rewatch it and think through this a lot more. I don’t recall him saying anything specific against Elon himself. Prob a dramatic eye roll?

in reply to biggeoff

IIRC his point was that 5G to every household is better than an ISP satellite constellation. That felt like it was ignoring so much including national security (for USA at least), global impact, and upgrade costs.
in reply to locuester

(Edit: made a more formal comment closer to the root of the thread)

Why? Launching shit into space is hard as fuck and has an enormous carbon footprint. You can build A LOT of cellular infrastructure for the same cost and impact.

And building your internet infrastructure in your own territory instead of floating in space will make it a lot harder for China to shoot with their badass microwave canon.

And I'm just a common idiot, but I'd wager upgrading satellite infrastructure is going to be slightly more expensive than terrestrial infrastructure. There's a reason we're still using a lot of satellite infrastructure from the 1980s.

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in reply to HiddenLayer555

Starlink satellites are disposable from the start. They have a five year lifespan before deorbiting and burning up. So launches continue forever. So basically upgrades just come as they come, the mechanism is already in place. No clue on how costs compare with upgrading hundreds of thousands of terrestrial towers every 10 years or whatever is needed.

Agreed that domestic benefits would require far more analysis than I’m capable of.

in reply to cv_octavio

It seems I stepped on a landmine. My bad. I truly didn’t and don’t realize that satellite internet is destroying humanity but I hear now it’s the guy that started the company that is so I have to hate those too.
in reply to locuester

Ah, Ok so you don't particularly have anything against humanity, you're just an ignoramus with no sense of right/wrong and a chronic inability to read the fucking room, and tacitly accepts the products and services of a Nazi pedophile techbro. Gotcha.

Hope you recover from the landmine injury!

in reply to locuester

Starlink has been proven to be utilized for dubious activity to undermine sovereignty (see Mossad coup attemptin Iran as a most recent example). It hides under the guise of global internet for those who otherwise wouldn't have access but seeing as how it comes at the cost of western imperial overreach, having solid counter measures ain't a bad idea.
in reply to locuester

Think about iran, where they had to jam the starlink signal to keep the cia agents from murdering everyone (they paid per murder).

Now if usa attacked a less powerful country without jamming technology, the cia agents could get their orders and data over starlink, and use that to murder everyone.

in reply to locuester

Sovereignty is a huge issue here - handing control of critical infrastructure to a US oligarch is just begging to be coerced and exploited.
in reply to va11kyrie

Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right? Just making sure I’m tracking - these are also hated here? Things that rich people own manufacturing of? What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too. Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.
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in reply to locuester

Unironically, yes. I don't know if you're trying to make that scenario sound ridiculous, but I can assure you that it very much is not. At least outside of the US.

It's not everyone at the moment, but the IT people who are paying attention are freaking the fuck out. I legitimately think Microsoft, AWS, and GCP will lose substantial market share overseas in the next 24 months.

Consider that much of the rest of the world has started trusting China more than the US. Now think about the US CLOUD Act. What person in their right mind is going to feel comfortable hosting their company's most sensitive data within jurisdictional reach of whatever the fuck is going on over there?

in reply to pie boy (he/him)

Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.
in reply to locuester

did you ever wonder how we got steered into a situation where we're forced to use windows, and cars, and starlink?
in reply to pie boy (he/him)

Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.
in reply to pie boy (he/him)

I am inside the United States and those corporations are all cancer and need to be cut out before they further spread.
in reply to locuester

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in reply to locuester

Yep people here hate windows. We hate cars, for reasons aside from spying as well they just generally suck.
in reply to locuester

People still drive but only because we have no choice most of the time. In a lot of places particularly the US and Australia it's impossible to participate in society without owning a car or people thinking there is something wrong with you.
in reply to pineapple

I did it for years in the city but can’t anymore.

So yeah, anyhow, that’s my point.

in reply to locuester

What's your point? People have to do things they hate? Why not develop that thought further? WHY do we have to, and is a world where we have to less often (or not at all) possible?
in reply to DeepSpace9mm

I feel the endless search for avoiding things I hate is a bit of a utopian dream. I try to be a bit more realistic and tolerant I suppose. Understood that you don’t tho.
in reply to locuester

People who don't have alternatives, yeah. Your thinking is too individualistic. You may agree on basic aversions, but the individualism is why you are getting downvotes
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in reply to locuester

Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right


YES

What about cars?


/c/fuckcars

Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.


A lot?

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in reply to locuester

Sir this is a-lemmy. We all hate Microslop, rich people and cars here.
in reply to locuester

Fuck cars is indeed a prevailing sentiment here and elsewhere, as it should be.
in reply to locuester

The broad answer is that Starlink clutters up the night sky with often visible satellites that ruin our view of the cosmos and risk negatively impacting radio astronomy while putting altogether to much power in the hands of a corporation and in this case the worlds richest douchebag/nazi.

The answer specific to Mainland China is that their government opposes the free flow of information. Anything that undermines their government's ability to control the narrative is frowned upon.

in reply to Aljernon

"Sure there are good reasons to do it, but I'm sure China is only doing it to be evil!"
in reply to BrainInABox

If evil is how you characterize their actions that's your business. I just look at past actions and patterns of behavior.
in reply to locuester

Global internet that is controlled by a Nazi man-child who wants to destabilize western democracy? Yeah, what could possibly be wrong with that...
in reply to BrainInABox

Fuck off. Just because something has its problems that doesn't give fascist billionaires the right to exploit it for their own selfish desires. 99% of the problems come from pricks like him anyways.
in reply to ToTheGraveMyLove

Isn't the whole point of western democracies to uphold the right of fascist billionaires to exploit for their selfish desires?
in reply to locuester

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in reply to ShinkanTrain

There is an issue with that, if the starlink saterlites were destroyed they would no longer be able to make avoidance menovers. This could very quickly lead to a cascade of massive crashes that pretty much means we will never be able to leave the earth for a long time.
in reply to pineapple

Not true. Starlink are in a very low orbit and regularly (1 or 2 a day) will simply burn up themselves as they fall out of orbit.
in reply to QinShiHuangsShlong

Which is also fucking horrible. Yeah just further pollute the atmosphere with vaporized satellites why don't you. Hope that Fortnite battle was worth it.
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in reply to QinShiHuangsShlong

Incorrect, they don't have natural de-orbit. They have to be controlled. They haven't solved natural de-orbit, and every de-orbit puts more aluminum oxide in the upper atmosphere that will decimate the ozone layer in 15-30 years.
in reply to skuzz

that will decimate the ozone layer in 15-30 years.


🤦
I always thought of de-orbiting just to burn-off as a waste, but now this.

in reply to ulterno

Sorry, as there is so much easy access to worry these days, but then also don't read this: csl.noaa.gov/news/2025/427_042… But actually, do at some point, but just store it in the same file as "things that suck that I can't control, so I have knowledge and can learn, grow, respond, while realizing it just goes in the same pile of bad decisions people of power are doing to destroy our planet." The knowledge is annoyingly necessary to build onto the next puzzle piece, despite the frustration. Although we kinda do have control if we just stop playing their game.
in reply to skuzz

The researchers suspect this would help shrink the ozone hole that forms over the South Pole every year,


Ok, so there seems to be a silver lining.
A lesser Ozone hole during a certain period.

Now just to know if the Ozone decimation is winning over this little phenomenon.
Either way, the LEO satellites seem to be to big a mess for their worth, unless you are just considering their military worth.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

China builds world's first 20GW microwave


For some reason it took me at least 5 reads to notice the word weapon in the title properly.

in reply to unwarlikeExtortion

I'm still going to reheat my leftovers for 2 minutes. No one touchs the power setting.