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in reply to Alas Poor Erinaceus

in reply to KoboldCoterie

I mean, yeah, that's how we prepare for disasters. We just need to find it all better
in reply to KoboldCoterie

Preppers are inherently selfish because they never consider community-based solutions. It’s always egocentric and hoarding mentality. In other words they assume it’s every man for himself. Odds are it’ll be more like Covid where half of society is in denial and success depends on how leaders respond to the crisis.
in reply to Xanthobilly

"Selfish" would be a situation where sufficient community exists that cooperation is at all possible. I think most preppers will simply tell you that they are expecting and prepping for complete collapse. As in, like it or not, "every man for themselves" would come to them, not them seeking it out.

In other words, without arguing why a "every man for themselves" situation can't or will never happen, the rest of your argument becomes irrelevant.

Now that question is fascinating. Haiti comes to mind as an example scenario. Are community-skills relevant in the face of roaming gangs and anarchy? I think that depends on how desperate these gangs are for immediate versus long term survival and planning. I'm also not sure Haiti is an exhaustive example of the types of societal collapse that are possible or likely.