Palantir CEO Makes Shocking Confession on Disrupting Democratic Power
Palantir CEO Makes Shocking Confession on Disrupting Democratic Power
They’re saying the quiet part out loud now.The New Republic
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They’re saying the quiet part out loud now.The New Republic
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in reply to Bluegrass_Addict • • •I know! Let's take off our heads!
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in reply to Chris Remington • • •I like the idea that they think that educated jobs only belong to women. That's an interesting thought.
The sad truth is that this shit isn't going to replace "highly educated" jobs, and that the AI gravy train will end once people start to enforce basic intellectual property enforcement. Time is ticking, and the market taking a hit now is making them scramble.
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Powderhorn
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •It doesn't need to be good to replace jobs, as long as there are no consequences for the people making those decisions.
I've lost count of how many "oops, it was AI's fault, not my fault!" stories I've heard, even within highly regulated fields. Like, lawyers submitting documents with completely fake citations, and then...no real consequences. Seems to me like that should be cause for immediate disbarment, but no, apparently not.
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stravanasu
in reply to GenderNeutralBro • • •The lack of consequences has been a problem for quite a while now, from before LLMs. In my opinion it's been caused by a widespread increase in professional incompetence, together with a mutually protective network of incompetent people. "I won't point out that you're incompetent and won't blame you for your mistakes, if you do me the same favour".
They call it "imposter syndrome", but it isn't a syndrome: it's a symptom.
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kibiz0r
in reply to stravanasu • • •Indeed: Everything was already AI
This has been a very long project — separating conduct from consequences, in order to maximize profit. AI is just a breakthrough tool for doing it.
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in reply to Chris Remington • • •"If I don't stab you, someone else will. Therefore I have an obligation to stab you." - crazed mass stabber
its_me_xiphos
in reply to Chris Remington • • •Take anything Palantir says about democracy as either a dog whistle or a threat. Palantirs product is mass surveillance and criminal behavior prediction (location, whereabouts, movement patterns). That's authoritarian, but not necessarily antidemocratic. You can still vote and be a democracy with mass (edit: typo was with ass survelliance...might still work) surveillance, don't conflate it.
Where the anti Democratic comes in is using that surveillance to prevent people from exercising their right to vote and manipulating their information so they vote how you want. That's what Palantir is enabling.
Aside: Its nuts how accurate their name is in spirit. Almost commendable they carried through embracing the name and the power behind it.
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in reply to ɔiƚoxɘup • • •That's a good read, thank you for sharing. I do not believe that a lack of privacy and surveillance are a given. You can have a strong Democratic state with surveillance, if you have strong privacy guarantees and the means to enforce them. I'll point to the, for the time, rapidly expanding surveillance state of revolutionary America in the 1770s and 1780s for that, but I admit, this is a much larger discussion, but your article and point are well taken.
Edit: Update based on additional thoughts and comments below. This reply is to the perspectives and argument offered by /u/euxotic and my response is: "Circling around to say I thought about this over the last four days. In brief, my perspective that you can have a surveillance apparatus and a contemporary democracy in the 21st century were misguided. You are right."
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in reply to its_me_xiphos • • •I might be able to agree with you if they hadn't already said that it's basically being misused and I'm talking about the people using it, not some crackpot or tin foil hat person. Also, the case for its necessity and its utility is very flimsy. Looke into snowden. Look into flock cameras. If you can even scratch the surface on those two topics and come back with the same argument... Well, then I just don't know what to do with you. lol
You can put in whatever safeguard you want, but there will still be people that will misuse it, and they won't get caught. That's what's already been happening with the levels of surveillance that we've already had since 2001, and even more so in 2004 with the Patriot Act.
In many ways, it's already too late and it has been proven that what we have already has not not been handled responsibly.
its_me_xiphos
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in reply to its_me_xiphos • • •Thank you.
I probably could have been a little bit more succinct and just said "past is prologue, QED, you are incorrect."
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in reply to its_me_xiphos • • •This is the first I've seen or heard of this kind of reversal on the internet.
.. Of course it was on bee haw!
Thanks for following up.
Stay safe out there.
Hirom
in reply to Chris Remington • • •Quick, undermine democratic values and rule of law before someone else does!
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