Explain it like I'm 5: Why is everyone on speakerphone in public?
The key to working at a place like Ars Technica is solid news judgment. [eds note: tell that to Benj Edwards] I’m talking about the kind of news judgment that knows whether a pet peeve is merely a pet peeve or whether it is, instead, a meaningful example of the Ways that Technology is Changing our World.The difference between the two is one of degree: A pet peeve may drive me nuts but does not appear to impact anyone else. A Ways that Technology is Changing our World story must be about something that drives a lot of people nuts.
“But where is the threshold?” I hear you asking plaintively. “It’s extremely important that I know when something crosses the line from pet peeve to important, chin-stroking journalism topic!”
Fortunately, the answer is simple. The threshold has been breached when your local public transit agency puts up a sign about the behavior in question.
Which brings me to the sign I saw yesterday in Philadelphia.
“Unless the tea is REALLY hot, keep the call off speaker,” it said.
(For those not in the US, “tea” in this context means gossip or news.)
I fucking hate speakerphone and don't use it even in my van unless a photo or document is shared during the conversation that needs to be addressed.
Explain it like I'm 5: Why is everyone on speakerphone in public?
Your phone still functions when held to your ear, people!Nate Anderson (Ars Technica)
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •For me, speakerphone goes on temporarily if I need multiple people to be able to both listen and speak to an existing conversation.
Otherwise, they join the call on their own devices.
I find holding a phone up to my cheek really annoying though; I could see secondary exceptions for people with wireless headphones whose batteries had just died.
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •I like the theory of people seeing stuff on TV (such as the apprentice) where calls are on speaker so it can be heard.
Humans like to emulate what they see, so they copy what they see on the telly
schnurrito
in reply to Powderhorn • • •The way I remember it, on old phones before smartphones, speakerphone was a very obscure feature that many users didn't know how to turn on. I certainly didn't (I was a child at the time) unless someone showed me.
On modern smartphones it's very easy, maybe that should be changed again. 😁
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •I care less about speakerphone than I do Bluetooth headsets or regular phone speaker use near me.
The speakerphone makes more noise!
Yes, but people already have conversations between each other in public where we can hear both sides. We train ourselves to tune those out. A speakerphone is analogous to that case of another human talking.
What I find most disruptive about phone conversations near me versus listening to two other people talking (which I can tune out) is that the speech pattern of a phone user is to say something and then pause. The problem is that that is exactly the signal that someone has said something to you, and that your attention is required. I have a harder time ignoring those one-sided conversations than turning out a conversation where I can hear both sides, because it's basically constantly giving my head the "you just missed something and need to respond" signal. It's like when someone says something to you, waits for a few seconds, and then your attention gets triggered and you look up and say "what?"
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... Show more...I care less about speakerphone than I do Bluetooth headsets or regular phone speaker use near me.
The speakerphone makes more noise!
Yes, but people already have conversations between each other in public where we can hear both sides. We train ourselves to tune those out. A speakerphone is analogous to that case of another human talking.
What I find most disruptive about phone conversations near me versus listening to two other people talking (which I can tune out) is that the speech pattern of a phone user is to say something and then pause. The problem is that that is exactly the signal that someone has said something to you, and that your attention is required. I have a harder time ignoring those one-sided conversations than turning out a conversation where I can hear both sides, because it's basically constantly giving my head the "you just missed something and need to respond" signal. It's like when someone says something to you, waits for a few seconds, and then your attention gets triggered and you look up and say "what?"
Now, the article does also reference someone turning a speakerphone way up, and that I can get, if you're playing it louder than a human would speak. But that's also kinda a special case.
I think that in general, the best practice is to text, and I think that most would agree that that's uncontroversially the best approach in public. But after that, I'd personally prefer to have speakerphone use, above headset or regular phone use.
EDIT: One interesting approach --- I mean, smartphone vendors would always like to have new reasons to sell more hardware, so if they can figure out how to make it work, they might jump on it --- might be phones capable of picking up subvocalization.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocal…
You'd probably also need some sort of speech synthesizer rig capable of converting that into speech.
A conversation where someone's using headphones/earbuds and a subvocalization-pickup phone would avoid some of the limitations of texting (not limited to text input speed on an on-screen keyboard or having to look at the display), provide for more privacy for phone users, and not add to sound pollution affecting other people in the environment.
EDIT2: Other possibilities for the speaker side:
Bone conduction
This has actually been done, but has some limitations on the sound it can produce, and you need to have a device in contact with your head.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_con…
Phase-array speakers to produce directional sound
Here, you need to have the device track its position and orientation relative to a given user's ears, then have a phase array of speakers that each play the sound at just the right phase offset to produce constructive interference in the direction of the user's ears --- it's beamforming with sound. Other users will have a hard time hearing the sound, which will be garbled and quieter, because of destructive interference in their direction.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamform…
We more-frequently use this for reception than for transmission, with microphone arrays, but you can make use of it for transmission. You'll need a minimum number of speakers in the array to be able to play beams of sound with constructive interference in the direction of a given number of listeners.
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in reply to dfyx • • •Ive done this twice, but most recently,
I was in a doctor's waiting room where an older fella is brainrot scrolling videos. I'm trying to read my book and ignore it, but the sounds are so annoying. So, I as politely as I can, turn to him and ask, "Sir, Im sorry to bother you, it's a bit loud, do you think you can turn it down?" He snaps at me, "Ma'am", he fucking ma'med me, "Ma'am, my volume is only at half, it's fine". I said, "Oh yeah? Bet, mine too" and hit play on the Suicide Silence (deathcore) I queued up.
The first time I did this, the person pulled out headphones immediately (maybt They Art is Murder works better), This guy kept going, so I placed my phone on the floor in front of me and pretended(tried) to read my book until I got called.
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its_me_xiphos
in reply to Powderhorn • • •The Kardashians and any reality show that needs to showcase a phone call for the audience. That is exactly how this all got to the level it did. People who watched and were raised on that media learned to use a phone like that and do.
That's my theory.
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •I blame the lack of a headphone jack.
Done get me wrong, boom boxes were a thing in the 80’s and 90’s, and there is the modern day equivalent of terrible Bluetooth speakers.
But without a convenient $5 tool to quiet your device it’s obvious most people will resort in speaker phones if they want to quickly hear something.
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in reply to Powderhorn • • •I want to believe it's that others have the same problem as me that holding the phone to their ear+cheek makes that face-part real moist after a minute or two. And I choose to believe the speakerphone-speakers just never realised they could slightly tilt/lift the phone away from their skin and still hear perfectly fine.
But I fear that @its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org might be correct on this topic and it's simply a case of media/influencers portraying phone conversations that way for better filmability.
theneverfox
in reply to Crotaro • • •I think modern phones are just too big. I don't want to hold a tablet up to my face
Personally, I just carry a headset, but if that dies it's only consideration for others that might stop me from putting it on speaker
Crotaro
in reply to theneverfox • • •(I also looked up the FP6 dimensions, dreading the size increase, but I just found that it's actually slightly smaller than my current phone, yay)
HobbitFoot
in reply to Powderhorn • • •Probably how children were raised to speak to people over the phone.
Until the iPhone, I can't think of too many personal phones that could put the call on speaker. So, if families with kids called other family, it was usually a form of one on one calls where people handed the phone off between each other. Nowadays, the default option is to put the call on speaker so everyone can hear everyone else. That set an expectation to where calls are on speaker unless there is a need for privacy.
boonhet
in reply to HobbitFoot • • •I'm pretty sure Nokias could also do it on the speaker, at least some of them.
But also I have calls on the speaker all the time for a different reason myself: I can walk around and do things with both hands. Sometimes I'll cook on a call, etc. But what kind of a monster does that in public?
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in reply to BarneyPiccolo • • •I just start getting into their conversation. Answering both of them, and I don't stop when I get the "wtf" eyes.
¡Advertir! I'm gigantic, so your mileage may vary.
TehPers
in reply to Powderhorn • • •One time, my mother-in-law answered a phone on speaker in a bar. It was from her boss.
"I just killed someone" came out of that speaker in a voice that sounded like he was going to cry.
I don't think she has put it on speaker since then.
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in reply to ɔiƚoxɘup • • •Using an ultrasonic dog trainer in public may piss off dogs, and other domesticated or wild animals in the vicinity. I woudln't recommend this, except maybe as a last resort on rare occasions.
Politely asking the person to use a headphone or earpiece may be more effective in many case.
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in reply to Hirom • • •Oh, for sure it's a dick move! As the surveillance spreads and grows, we owe it to ourselves to be aware of the countermeasures.
Also, I've only tested this, not tried it in public, but 100% works on condenser mics I've tested it on.
And to your point, at the gym, I do ask people if they've got to headset when I hear them blasting their media on their phones.
Ceph [they/them]
in reply to Powderhorn • • •I have a friend who is hard of hearing (completely deaf in one year, has 30% hearing in the other), and if her headset malfunctions it's the only way she can hear a phone call.
Granted, most people who do this in public this isn't their situation.