I never had a cable subscription (that I paid for), nor have I ever subscribed to a streaming service (I had Prime for years for the shipping, not the content).
I own things, and I like it, much to the chagrin of the tech bros.
Maybe I'm the weird one here, but when I look at fiio, and they are essentially smartphones (beefy Exynos or Qualcomm SoCs, running a bloated Android), minus some connectivity apps and a mobile antenna, I'd rather just use a phone, thanks. Most portable music players have this minimalistic appeal of devices that were engineered for just one single purpose and to do it well, and fiio certainly isn't having that vibe.
Yeah that's fair, I am personally leaning deeper into things like the Echo Mini or soon to be released Echo Nano from their sub brand. I think DAPs are in a weird place, and do wish there was a higher quality iPod-like solution.
I got the itch to have a separate music player from my phone. Became very interested in the Innioasis Y1. It looks like a late model iPod nano (before they went touchscreen; it has the wheel). Bought it and then put the RockBox firmware on it (no simple task if you use Linux, let me tell you). I love it. It's made me more intentional with my music. Plus I'm acquiring CDs and burning them to my laptop to transfer over to the Y1.
Hmm okay cool, I have been pretty on the fence about just buying a Gen1 Nano with the upgraded storage and roxbox preinstalled, but this looks solid too. Everything work on it with RB?
From what I can tell. I did get much better battery results from doing RockBox after a factory reset. (Initially switched it over after having loaded my music onto the device; battery was no good and there were some weird quirks with the file system so I decided to fully reset the device, installed RB, then loaded my music. Noticeable difference!)
Is that another overpowered smartphone SoC running a wasteful android with a thin UI and dumbed-down music player? If so, let me just repurpose an old smartphone and save the planet from some e-waste. If not, kudos.
If you're moderately tech-inclined, its not super difficult to set up a streaming music server that you can access from anywhere. The most basic solution that almost anyone can spin up is a cheap NAS (or always-on PC), and setting up a VPN between your phone and router to access your library.
From there you can add complexity by configuring a true music server like Navidrome, adding web-facing access, erc
After typing this, I realized maybe you meant completely decoupling music from your phone, not just decoupling the storage
Yeah I have dabbled with hosted music, but I do mean "offline" device + storage. Like MP3 players of old. I have also been blursed with an interest in audio gear so it becomes a very appealing rabbit hole for me.
Navidrome serving up my 200gb library from home, via Tailscale, and all it cost me was the music that I bought* over the years. Oh, and a fiver for Symfonium on my phone. But Feishin is free on my computers.
Then I worked out how to redirect it through the VPS I use for my website, and now I have my own streaming service. It's pretty sweet.
I might look into Lidarr. Currently, I have a folder in SymcThing that my server monitors, so any audio I drop in there automatically gets moved to my Navidrome folder. It works well enough, but is a little clunky.
Really? There’s something appealing to me about decoupling my cellular modem from my phone; I used an iPod Touch instead of a smartphone for years (with Wifi and VoIP).
At this point I have zero interest in a dedicated audio player.
And if I wanted one… my watch holds more MP3s than the original iPod did. I can just play music from my watch.
Or my graphing calculator.
Or, for that matter, my over the ear headphones which have a microSD slot.
Yeah, that's totally fair. I prefer wired listening devices and want less "smart" things in my life. At the moment my music library is about 180GB so a bit much for the smaller available offline devices, and mostly FLAC so the DAC needs to be powerful enough. Absolutely a me problem, as I mentioned in another comment my hobby rabbit hole into audio makes the full decouple very appealing to me.
My early purchases from iTunes had DRM. Then they shifted to no DRM and offered a way to get previous purchases DRM free. I don't think i did that for a lot of songs as my older purchases still get downloaded as .m4p files.
I somewhat modernized my old 160GB iPod with this board and a larger battery that seems to last for several days between charges. Oddly, only my Windows install of iTunes detects and syncs with it properly. Any modern version of Apple Music on MacOS sees it as an iPod but tells me to reformat every time.
I find it to be absolutely essential for long trips since Apple Music on Android will automatically "manage" my downloaded songs and I can't listen to them offline anymore once airborne and flying over an ocean.
iPods are still out there, and you can still buy parts to mod them. Mod a 6th gen iPod Classic with 500gb of flash storage and a new battery, and you need never worry about another music player. You can even wedge bluetooth into them now. And a USB-C connector.
Why would I need another iPod? My phone does everything the iPod did but better, and more. I've loaded it up with all my DRM-free MP3s from Google Play Music before that shut down, and I can watch whatever I want on it offline. Why buy what would certainly be an even more enshittifird iPhone with less features at Apple's totally sensible prices?
Does it do jack, sd card, and the ability to use it without being flooded by notifications, calls, alarms, reminders? In my case I just want to shut off the world and listen to music without having this addictive machine near me.
Yeah I specifically picked a phone with a jack and SD card slot (iPods never supported these afaik). Do Not Disturb is also an Android feature, or airplane mode like the other reply said.
Eternally sad I can't sync my old iPod Classic from highschool with Apple Music. Maybe I need to go find out what replaced What.CD and work out a good storage solution once the current silliness over storage(/RAM) ends.
(On that, I bought a Samsung SATA SSD at the start of the year knowing things would get worse; lo-and-behold, three months later it's x4'd in retail price.)
Hiby, Shanling, Fiiio and Ibasso already make such devices. People who wanted to keep large libraries, use their favorite headphones never stopped using mp3 players/DAPs.
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in reply to alyaza [they/she] • • •I never had a cable subscription (that I paid for), nor have I ever subscribed to a streaming service (I had Prime for years for the shipping, not the content).
I own things, and I like it, much to the chagrin of the tech bros.
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in reply to alyaza [they/she] • • •Uh, yes? I have all the mp3s I want to listen to on my phone (and my NAS),I don't need an Ipod for that.
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in reply to caurvo • • •If you're moderately tech-inclined, its not super difficult to set up a streaming music server that you can access from anywhere. The most basic solution that almost anyone can spin up is a cheap NAS (or always-on PC), and setting up a VPN between your phone and router to access your library.
From there you can add complexity by configuring a true music server like Navidrome, adding web-facing access, erc
After typing this, I realized maybe you meant completely decoupling music from your phone, not just decoupling the storage
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in reply to dmention7 • • •Navidrome serving up my 200gb library from home, via Tailscale, and all it cost me was the music that I bought* over the years. Oh, and a fiver for Symfonium on my phone. But Feishin is free on my computers.
Then I worked out how to redirect it through the VPS I use for my website, and now I have my own streaming service. It's pretty sweet.
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in reply to caurvo • • •Really? There’s something appealing to me about decoupling my cellular modem from my phone; I used an iPod Touch instead of a smartphone for years (with Wifi and VoIP).
At this point I have zero interest in a dedicated audio player.
And if I wanted one… my watch holds more MP3s than the original iPod did. I can just play music from my watch.
Or my graphing calculator.
Or, for that matter, my over the ear headphones which have a microSD slot.
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in reply to alyaza [they/she] • • •Look. We already have a little computer in our pocket. Besides Apple can go fly a kite with their DRM audio files. Just let me own my phone.
EDIT: iTunes used to sell DRM music a long time ago and then I stopped paying attention. They're DRM free now, my bad.
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in reply to luciole (they/them) • • •I somewhat modernized my old 160GB iPod with this board and a larger battery that seems to last for several days between charges. Oddly, only my Windows install of iTunes detects and syncs with it properly. Any modern version of Apple Music on MacOS sees it as an iPod but tells me to reformat every time.
I find it to be absolutely essential for long trips since Apple Music on Android will automatically "manage" my downloaded songs and I can't listen to them offline anymore once airborne and flying over an ocean.
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Why would I need another iPod? My phone does everything the iPod did but better, and more. I've loaded it up with all my DRM-free MP3s from Google Play Music before that shut down, and I can watch whatever I want on it offline. Why buy what would certainly be an even more enshittifird iPhone with less features at Apple's totally sensible prices?
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in reply to alyaza [they/she] • • •Eternally sad I can't sync my old iPod Classic from highschool with Apple Music. Maybe I need to go find out what replaced What.CD and work out a good storage solution once the current silliness over storage(/RAM) ends.
(On that, I bought a Samsung SATA SSD at the start of the year knowing things would get worse; lo-and-behold, three months later it's x4'd in retail price.)
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