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in reply to alyaza [they/she]

Well lets hope that she will be relieved of her position soon then...
in reply to unexposedhazard

"He" this time. The CEO keeps changing, but their mission keeps getting worse
in reply to alyaza [they/she]

Well, I’ll take Manifest v3 over AI, so I guess I’m switching to Vivaldi.
in reply to Skyline969

Or you could use a fork that strips out the AI shit.
in reply to Strayce

I switched to Waterfox on my Chromebook running Kubuntu.
in reply to Skyline969

Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox strip Firefox clean of AI.

Zen is a feature powerhouse like Vivaldi, without the bloat. LibreWolf is privacy focused and ships with uBlock Origin by default.


Zen is my main browser. LibreWolf at work for stability. Waterfox works on PC and Android, but I only use it on the latter so can't vouch for its performance on the former.

There are even more Firefox forks, but these are the one's I use.


We noticed a rising interest regarding the use of AI in browsers. To be clear about our position on this: Zen currently is disabling all AI features included in Firefox and will continue to do so.

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in reply to arsCynic

+1 for Librewolf. Works just as I expect it to without getting in the way. The way Firefox used to be.
in reply to alyaza [they/she]

Mozilla is trying so hard to kill Firefox.
in reply to alyaza [they/she]

As anti-AI as I am, this is way less sensational than the headline makes it sound. They're adding an AI mode that's basically a built-in extension. Sounds easy to disable. I hate this shit, but you have to grant that Mozilla is a small company fighting for survival. They are probably just doing this to stay relevant (maybe they can get more money from google by being the default AI provider as well), and they may just as quickly drop this when the AI bubble finally pops. I am willing to forgive Mozilla for a little more than I forgive Microsoft, who has no real reason to push this AI hype other than trying to get more rich.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

money from google by...


I mean, in a way it has always been waiting for the other shoe to drop. Default search provider - fair enough to change - but now that ain't good enough for google, and it won't ever be

in reply to alyaza [they/she]

Mozilla: Continuing Netscape's legacy of shitty leadership.

Mozilla: Still pissed they only shipped a browser and email client instead of obtaining W O R L D D O M I N A T I O N!!!!!!!

in reply to alyaza [they/she]

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in reply to alyaza [they/she]

He says he could begin to block ad blockers in Firefox and estimates that’d bring in another $150 million, but he doesn’t want to do that. It feels off-mission.


Doesn't want to do that? Just like how 6 months ago, Sam Altman said he didn't want OpenAI to do adult content? Hopefully I'm overreacting, but I'm worried more about this kind of thinking than an AI feature.

in reply to CrackedLinuxISO

That's a long terme goal sadly :/ Either they're slowly doing this to avoid a mass movement to another browser (but which one :() or that's some inside job to slowly kill and let Firefox die ^^
in reply to alyaza [they/she]

The issue I have with the responses are that forking or running lite browsers is not a solution but a work around. A work around that requires vigilance in the rapidly changing tech space. Most people can't do that. It won't result in systematic change that we need to stop enshitification. I'm not downplaying your work and a counter movement, far from it, but its simply not enough without more resources to stop the deluge of nonsense.

I dont have answers, and there are too many challenges to count to list here. From politics to how business schools teach. So we are stuck with a domineering overlord with both the resources to make it all look simple and fluid and to make the work of innovators increasingly difficult.

in reply to its_me_xiphos

The ability to fork is core to the FOSS movement, and I certainly don't trust any govt to decide how all browsers should be made. I don't consider FOSS or competition to be a workaround, I consider that to be the best possible solution to this problem.
in reply to alyaza [they/she]

Man, I've been a staunch defender of Mozilla for a long time, but they're making it clearer and clearer that they just want to be Chrome. I think it's time to start hunting for another, again.

Maybe I'll give PaleMoon another go! I was surprised to see Maxthon and Midori were still alive, but they seem a little shady now?