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Linux kernel maintainers are following through on removing Intel 486 support


in reply to Powderhorn

hopefully someone forks off a decent kernel that bridges the gap between older hardware and modern Linux because this feels like a valuable door to keep open in this regressive age of "you'll own nothing and you'll like it".
in reply to cecilkorik

I get that, but how many people are still running a 486 without a bespoke use case in 2026? The older kernels still work, and no software targeting the 486 architecture is relying on the latest Linux kernel.
in reply to Powderhorn

As long as the PC isn't being connected to the internet, there's no reason you can't just keep running an old kernel.
in reply to cmnybo

Even if it is connected, you can keep running an old kernel.
in reply to Powderhorn

You can, but it’s a bad idea. Pretty major security risk.
in reply to djsaskdja

What are you running on a 486 these days that needs to be online? A pihole? Like, even if this is a CNC controller or vinyl cutter (if you need a dongle to run your output, this is a valid concern; not a lot of parallel ports hanging out on mobos these days), the internet is not required.
in reply to djsaskdja

What kind of security risk are you at running a 486? You can barely handle the TLS handshake. Modern malware would just brick your system the same way any other modern software would.
in reply to TehPers

I was speaking in general. Everyone's risk tolerance is different. Offline is better if you can.
in reply to djsaskdja

My point was more along the lines of online being impractical. Sure, you can still connect to servers running old software (in which case kernel updates aren't useful to you anyway), but anything with modern security or software is going to just not run at all on it, whether because the software is too heavy for the processor or because it simply was not compiled for it (and cannot be).

Point is, I think we both agree that the only reasonable usecase for these processors is offline or on a separate network (LAN/tunneled/etc).

in reply to djsaskdja

Is it?

Just use Linux 6.12 with LTS until 2029 and Super LTS until 2036.

in reply to cecilkorik

in reply to spit_evil_olive_tips

I would really want to know what kind of a use-case results in using a 386 or 486 computer in 2026 in such a manner that not being able to install the latest kernel updates would in any way be an actual issue.
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in reply to JohnEdwa

Anything you still need a 486 for outside of hardware edge cases is handled far better and faster by a Pi Zero W, at a fraction of the power envelope. Thing is, they won't be running Linux in that case, given vendor lock-in.
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in reply to Powderhorn

Sometimes, the issue is certification, e.g. for aerospace and medical applications - although these systems tend to run on decades-old software anyway (since changes to the software also need to be certified, which rarely happens), so it's not like this has an actual impact.
in reply to eleitl

Yes. It was speedy enough to merit a "Turbo" button to slow it down to a reasonable speed!
in reply to spit_evil_olive_tips

For reference, that means the 486 has maybe as many transistors as the board that runs my 11-year-old 3D printer firmware, and that was considered something between the "absolute bare minimum" and "honestly kinda underpowered" at the time I bought it. The only thing that board does is run some loops that send basic signals to some stepper motor drivers, and some basic-ass "bang-bang" style heat control. The actual heavy lifting of organizing and sending the position controls line by line is done by a Raspberry Pi.
in reply to Powderhorn

Bet some government/industrial jobs are about to open up due to this :)

*Edit: added slash between government and industrial

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in reply to lefaucet

Nope they've all been running the same old kernel version since the 1990s.
in reply to Powderhorn

Hehe good call, I meant for there to be a slash between gov't and industrial.

Gov't industrial jobs only exist in communist countries where capitalists aren't given their god-given /s right to maximize and take profits from any industrial process.

in reply to Powderhorn

Holy shit! 486 support was still in there? Damn. Wow. Nice.

I don't want to lose support for classic machines, but it's not like the previous versions of Linux will stop being available to put on old hardware. If we were purging archive copies of old Linux kernels, then I would be alarmed.

Edit: for some context - my grandma isn't going to get burned by this. She doesn't own enough 3.5" disks to fit a Linux Mint install onto, anyway.

Anyone (me probably, I love this shit), who wants to install Linux on a 486 today is probably going to do some research first, anyway.

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in reply to pinball_wizard

I wonder just how many people clicked this today and cursed themselves!