This is a very good video from Bernie Sanders about why it is really important to vote for Kamala Harris next week, even despite disagreements on Gaza:
youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSnii…
(via @rmondello)
TL:DW - Trump is far worse on Gaza, Trump is Netanyahu's preferred candidate. And there are other issues such as climate change where Trump is threatening the entire planet. Rich will get richer, poor get poorer and world will burn.
#USElections #Gaza #KamalaHarris #BernieSanders #Elections #Elections2024
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Rotz Loeffel
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •Honest question from someone living in Europe:
why is the israel-gaza conflict such an issue in the us election campaign?
Or is it only a big issue among Bernie's followers?
Nonetheless, as always, Bernie looks like the only sensible politician in the US from a European perspective.
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •@rmondello
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •Sure, but the video is addressing exactly this. Trump doesn't even want aid going there, Trump just wants Netanyahu to go even harder with military strikes and to "finish the job", and says Harris doesn't support Netanyahu enough.
Whatever happens now, by his support for Netanyahu Trump is proudly signalling it will be worse under him.
As well as that, the entire political environment would be more dangerous and closed to grassroots pressure in a Trump second term. There's more on this from @jess at:
zeroes.ca/@jess/11339244070067…
and
zeroes.ca/@jess/11339254795215…
jess (@jess@zeroes.ca)
zeroes.caSpujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •@rmondello @jess
#kamalaharris #mastodon4harris #mastodonforharris #uspol #uspolitics #timwalz #harriswalz2024 #whitedudesforharris #usa
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •I don't know, and I have no way of finding out, but if Trump gets in the situation will be much worse.
This is a chance to prevent the situation getting worse. If you don't vote, you're passing up that chance, putting Trump in power and the people of Gaza will suffer an even worse fate.
This is not about choosing who you like, it's about choosing which situation is preferable. Trump's situation will be worse in every way.
Harris is far more susceptible to pressure from those concerned about Gaza. There would be a path to pressure Harris. No such path would exist with Trump.
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •@rmondello @jess
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •It's your choice, but your choice will have consequences.
Sitting it out will have consequences too. If you do nothing, someone else will pay the price for that.
This isn't a comfortable situation to be in, but it's where we are. Saying you're "not buying it" doesn't stop it being true.
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •Go tell Kamala.
spujb.masto.host/@spujb/113026…
@rmondello @jess
Spujb (@spujb@spujb.masto.host)
MastodonFediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •Think of it this way:
Netanyahu wants Trump elected.
If you don't vote, you are making it easier for Netanyahu to get what he wants.
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •@rmondello @jess
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •You're the one who has a vote, it is in your hands.
Whatever you do will have an effect, even if you do nothing at all.
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •Isn't kamala supposed to be doing anything, lol? If she wins will we all have to do her job as POTUS?
@rmondello @jess
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •If Trump wins, there will be no way for you to affect his policies at all. There may not even be fair elections in the future.
This is the kind of person Trump is:
rollingstone.com/politics/poli…
Do you want this guy in power?
Trump Wanted to Shoot Black Lives Matter Protesters, Says Mark Esper
Ryan Bort (Rolling Stone)Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •We're threatening the country with a Trump election, and even that isn't changing Kamala's policies.
So either Trump isn't so bad, or Kamala, like Biden, loves Israel enough to destroy America for it.
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •Voting isn't about what you think of candidates, it's about the effect on other people.
Voting (and not voting) has consequences for other people, even people who don't have a vote.
If you don't vote, it will make life easier for Trump, easier for Netanyahu and easier for their billionaire backers.
If you don't vote, it will make life harder for Gaza, and for women, queer people, immigrants etc.
If you don't vote, it will make climate change much worse much more quickly.
This is all covered by Sanders' video, but you are talking like you haven't watched it. I'm not sure there's anything else to say?
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •You just keep repeating the same phrases ("heard it all before") without even acknowledging anything I've said.
There's not much point in talking if you're not going to actually discuss anything. You sound more like a troll rather than someone who actually believes in something?
Spujb
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •Because we've been hearing the same inane platitudes from you dipshits since January.
#bluemaga #kamalaharris #mastodon4harris #mastodonforharris #uspol #uspolitics #timwalz #harriswalz2024 #whitedudesforharris #usa
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to Spujb • • •@spujb
"You dipshits"?
Who are you talking about?
Again, this is troll-language.
FediThing 🏳️🌈
in reply to FediThing 🏳️🌈 • • •Sensitive content
p.s. Just had to block someone 😞 If you're going to reply to my posts it's fine if you disagree, but if I've tried to have a conversation that addresses your points, don't start swearing at me and treating me like I'm part of Harris's campaign team.
Sanders is a critic of Harris, but he is still urging people to vote for her because the consequences of the alternative scenario are far worse in every way.
This is the POV I'm coming from, and it's why I'm sharing it. Trump would burn the world, we must not let that happen.