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Dear Fedi friends, I need your help.

If by any chance any of you have saved the video of #WSocial CEO Anna Zeiter's presentation at the Monaco AI conference (uploaded to YouTube on May 21) I would be ETERNALLY grateful.

OG URL: youtu.be/xDNGHaISqs4

The 35 minute video included priceless quotes like: "Yes we have a business model, it's not a philanthropy, we are not a B corp, we actually want to make money."

Following the publication of my exposé, the video has been removed from YouTube!

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

that seems to be a different URL? That one works, but is a different video? Apologies if I'm mistaken.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

completely unsurprised. Lesson for next time: archive every page and back up every video linked to from such an important article!
in reply to Oblomov

@oblomov I was 100% convinced I had downloaded it from YouTube but I can't find it anywhere. I spent 2 hours looking for it on all my devices... 😭
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

It is bizarre that the Internet Archive Wayback Machine version no longer has the video, either. You can see the thumbnail for a while, but then it disappears. web.archive.org/web/2026052713…
in reply to Megan Lynch (she/her)

@meganL Streisand effect much? The video only had 33 views (I was the first - completely by accident - and I have a screenshot to prove that)
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Andrea Cabiale reported via Hello Monaco and may have it. Worth a try. Here's the article link:

hellomonaco.com/news/latest-ne…

The video is well scrubbed. Likely a paid act to be this clean. As you do when you have that big boat money to toss about.

I hope you find it. Might be worth asking in the AI/LLM dev community. They keep everything. 🖖

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

This fellow had potentially the entire thing recorded as well, this is their excerpt from event:

youtube.com/watch?v=5SWeDWagvb…

That's all I'm seeing, but other participants/speakers may be helpful (maybe a third party ask for educational use, I'd say - I'm sure there are plenty of folks who could benefit on it).

#pass complete.

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#pass
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

have you tried searching for the video in french? Longshot but....

Also was the video posted to LinkedIn? It must have been, I wonder if it got cached there and is still watchable somehow.

At least this short is still up.

youtube.com/shorts/hNVAbSxydUg

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Found this video in German, 43 minutes long, about W social, with Anna Zeiter. ardmediathek.de/video/swr1-leu…

And found a description of the deleted video (web link in ALT text).

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

🤷

someone has to have downloaded it to recover it

you spooked anna!

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@sennoma “Oh, we’re not good. Please don’t think we’re good. That would be terrible. We’re just as bad as everyone else. Give us money!”
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

Hope the video can be found. I don’t think it’s wrong to have a business model, so would like to know about the rest of the interview to get a better idea
in reply to Blf_tpe

@Blf_tpe well, as @aral pointed out, saying that they're not a B corp but actually only want to make money is pretty revelatory... especially since they kept touting their lofty goals of "saving democracy" and "saving journalism". Plus you should have seen the video for her tone while delivering the line

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@Blf_tpe @aral my hunch is that they wanted the video gone because of her lines about using their users' data to train European AI models

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in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@Blf_tpe It’s important that the sheep give the wolves every benefit of the doubt. You really can’t tell their intentions from afar so the best thing to do is to invite them in for a good, up-close assessment.
in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

@BjornW
got this invitation..
should i attend —or use my time for something more fruitful..? ;)
—anything specifically you want me to dig into?
~;\

wlaunch.confetti.events/?invit…

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

There is no higher compliment than to have them react. You got to them. I hope the video is found. Because they shouldn’t be allowed to hide. Good work finding and reporting it while it was up!
in reply to Paco Hope

@paco thank you Paco!

I was 100% convinced I had saved the video and I was crushed to find out that wasn’t the case. Big lesson learned: next time I’m in a similar situation, I will immediately download the video and back it up to external drives and my self-hosted NextCloud 🥲

in reply to Elena Rossini 🌈

I couldn't find it either, as others said, it seems like a paid scrubbing job.

But I commend you for making them scared! Well done E!

I just sent a message to Monaco AI asking for it, they probably won't give me the video, but I hope to contribute to the embarrassment before they "launch".