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Due to it's famously too large size, this server will defederate mastodon.social tomorrow.
I want to encourage everyone to leave mastodon.social (if you might need/want/could use help, see social.zvavybir.eu/@zvavybir/1β¦ ), especially those who follow me (If you only manage to migrate after I already defederated mastodon.social, the auto follower/followee migration will not take me with you, so then please feel free to dm me so that I remember to follow you again).
@Thomas_LB
@PeteTucker
@Dreamie
@gobberies
@parsaaz
@ChronicIllnessHumor
@hhardy01
@newstephie
@cemedia
@persagen
@fransoazo
@COVID19_DISEASE
@UKnoGum
@madeindex
@Benaresh
@wellingtonrock
@RealJournalism
@DrALJONES
@GenetikcinizPro
@openscience
@piraten_saarland
@european_alternatives
@NGIAssure
zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: (@zvavybir@social.zvavybir.eu)
I haven't really put this anywhere easily accessible so far, so now here: If you need, could use or just simply want help in joining the Fediverse/Mastodon or in switching instances, don't hesitate to reach out, I will help gladly.zvavybir's server
MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •Thank you for the notification! :)
What does "famously too large size" mean?
zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •It feels to me like the power is already in their hands. #Mastodon gGmbH maintains the #GitHub project and joinmastodon.org.
Have you & the others who believe this tried to raise the issue with them?
A simple solution to increase signup on other #servers would be to remove the "Join mastodon.social" button on the officialΒΉ #website and instead display a full list of servers.
ΒΉ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodonβ¦
Mastodon - Decentralized social media
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zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •You raise an important issue with the #decentral / #federation idea of the #fediverse.
The concentration of power might become an increasing issue looking into the future. If, e.g., #Mastodon gGmbH decided to threaten blocking #instances unless they remove certain users, content...
Thinking about switching there are concerns of losing: SEO-wise, reach, contacts/followers, character & poll limit (π)...
PS
#Misskey seems to have a "fairer" signup process
misskey-hub.net/en/
Misskey Hub β Official website of the Misskey Project
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MadeInDex
in reply to MadeInDex • • •Your approach & the thought of switching instances somehow remind me of moving from #Whatsapp to #Signal and eventually having to have both π
(as the critical mass has not seemed to be reached yet)
#Mastodon currently seems to face a more immediate, more dramatic issue, though.
The active #users & #server count are continuously dropping:
mastodon-analytics.com/
#fediverse #mastodonggmbh #mastodongmbh
Mastodon Analytics
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zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •You are right, the #data seems to be significantly different on fedidb.org/ compared to mastodon-analytics.com/
@erickhun & @dansup do you have any idea why that might be? :)
FediDB, Fediverse Network Statistics
fedidb.orgzvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •Laberpferd
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •I can confirm this from all the people i followed here (and in theory still follow), espically furries
Everyone ismoving to Bluesky because their friends are most active or exclusively only there, the social network effect in full blast
Most people dont have the mental energy to deal with so many different places, so they concentrate on "the one App" which does the most thing and slowly cut off the places like our Fediverse that feels loosing be useful
MadeInDex
in reply to Laberpferd • • •@Laberpferd
The Nafo & Furry communities indeed seem to be mass migrating to #Bluesky!
"...social network effect in full blast" π π
@zvavybir
zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •But even without such direct abuses it is bad. For example I tried to block mastodon.social after they started their partnership with Facebook's Threads, but couldn't due to whom I would loose. So there is already a problem.
About your concerns: Contacts and followers will be automigrated (I did it already twice without problems) and you can first check what character and poll limit an instance has (although afaik mastodon.social is *very* unusually low, so this is not really something to worry about, even if you couldn't check it first). And about SEO: At least on DuckDuckGo your website is above your mastodon account, and even if someone where to stumble on your mastodon.social account after migration, they would see where you are now (for example my old account is under mastodon.social/@zvavybir and this immediately tells you where I am now).
And yes, Misskey is betterβ¦
MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •"...but couldn't due to whom I would loose."
This is the kind of thing I meant with the WhatsApp / Signal analogy ;)
It was actually a joke about this!
(I originally wrote "...character & poll limit ( jokeπ)" but had to funnily remove the "joke" part because of the character limit π€£)
The #SEO issue is more regarding things such as domain authority & ranking.
zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •zvavybir :palestina:π :Green:
in reply to MadeInDex • • •MadeInDex
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •If you switch #instances you would lose every contact on an instance blocked on the new server, correct?
So for example, if I moved the #Madeindex project to a server that has defederated Mastodon.social, every contact from mastodon.social would be gone, right?
samiamsam
in reply to MadeInDex • • •the reason i didn't use mastodon until fairly recently is the 'server' thing which is useless to me
i don't want multiple choices
i want one place to interact
glad i found mastodon social because i won't use a zuck, musk or dorsey product
MadeInDex
in reply to samiamsam • • •@samiamsam
π Musk & Dorsey Zuck
@zvavybir
Stephie
in reply to zvavybir :palestina:π :Green: • • •Sorry, I'm a really non-techy person. What is the significance of this?
Benaresh
in reply to Stephie • • •Basically people on mastodon.social cannot interact with them as much. Something like removing yourself from a group chat.
I hope that helps ..
Stephie
in reply to Benaresh • • •Benaresh
in reply to Stephie • • •Well good news you dont need another account or App!
usually you go to social.zvavybir.eu to change your account adress
but this doesn't work and apparently they arent defederated anymore?
IDK i am very confused right now.
zvavybir's server
Mastodon hosted on social.zvavybir.euStephie
in reply to Benaresh • • •MadeInDex
in reply to Stephie • • •I wrote a #guide (to the best of my very theoretical knowledge on the topic π) for you: mastodon.social/@madeindex/113β¦
MadeInDex
2024-11-09 11:10:00
Stephie
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