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#WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

@EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

No further comment necessary.

Check for yourselves (04:30): inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

#BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

a screenshot from W Social's onboarding process showing a screen that says: "Verify yourself with W Identity. Verify anonymously or with your real name. W Identity is fully decentralized, ensuring your data stays on your device. Have your passport or ID ready. Donwload on Apple's App Store / Get it on Google Play"
#BigTech #openwashing #wsocial #widentity #europewashing #sovereigntywashing @European Commission
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Dave Everitt
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Dave Everitt
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after reading about this I just opened a Eurosky "MU" account instead. Will stay on Mastodon but may migrate my BlueSky account to MU: mu.social/profile/daveeveritt.…

Update: I opened a MU account *before* migrating my BlueSky to EuroSky and now get this when trying to migrate… have opened a support request.

error: This handle is already taken. Please choose another.

@daveeveritt.eurosky.social

mu
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Andre123
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Is EU trying to become a more "polite" version of the orange thing in the White House ?
Looks like we are willing to go in that direction. I mean...not me, but Governments....
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Dmytro Demchenko πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
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Dmytro Demchenko πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
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This almost looks like a scam where you have to enter a PIN. Do you have to enter it in the app?
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Randy van den Berg
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I don't like the way it needs my ID. This should never be required in my opinion.
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Jupina Amissa
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Like... No, freaking way. 🀨️
I hope users have even quater of a brain and just do not use it.

90's was told that, not to put anything about real you in internet, this has become full 180Β° over the years.

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Guillaume ⁂
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Well I registered for it, but on second thought, maybe not... "We don't need US tech" / "Please use US tech" / "You MUST use US tech"
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VEGA
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VEGA
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@ploum
πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸ‘ΉπŸ‘ΉπŸ‘ΉπŸ€‘πŸ€‘πŸ€‘
@ploum
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Peter B.
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I'm a senior, very experienced IT devops: I was informed the other day that public institutions are now paying for workshops held by Microsoft representatives on "how to implement souvereign IT - with Windows".

Eh... πŸ™„ ?

If I'd be one of the admins there, I'd stand up and call #bullshit

@ anyone reading this: we are paying for this in high numbers daily. That money is missing where actually needed.

#PublicMoneyPublicCode #FOSS

#foss #bullshit #publicmoneypubliccode
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elala@nrw.social
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External "consultants" NEED to know where your house lives, because otherwise the universe will implode.☝️😎
@EUCommission
@European Commission
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C_Note
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but... but it's all for our goods and for protecting our kids... and stuff
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Kerplunk
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W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

Go to googles or apples tracker store and download the app.

Does the W stand for Wankers?

#widentity
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Gilgwath
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So to access this "open" space we need to download an application from the stores from the selfsame companies you criticised for having a gatekeeper roles? AND these are the companies we want to become more independent off. Hypocritical the last degree. Hard to believe that this actually about freedom and sovereignty, and not about building yet another surveillance and censorship apparatus. Just "Under EU controll".
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Christophe B.
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I don't even understand how this thing works. They claim to have no access to the user's identity data and that it stays local on the device. So why do they need you to scan your passport while there are countless ways to authenticate anonymously?
In a press report they say that the goal is to confirm you're human without revealing who you are, yet in the very next sentence they say that they encourage a culture where users engage under their real names, WTF?
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Olivia Brooks Studio
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Interesting move toward digital sovereignty. It will be interesting to see how identity verification shapes user trust and platform adoption in Europe πŸ‘€

@_elena @EUCommission

@Elena Rossini 🌈 @European Commission
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Manuel
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If they are genuinely seeking digital sovereignty, they should include #fdroid as a software store from which the app can be downloaded.
#fdroid
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Jonathan
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Mail us your DNA

Scan yer eyeballs

Courier us your first finger with fingerprint in a bag of ice

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Fardels Bear
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I love the idea of the EU, but sometimes they don't know their arse from their elbow. Proper facepalm moment.
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mit_scharf
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hoffentlich fΓ€llt die @EUCommission damit so richtig auf die fresse. Sorry. Ich will niemandem was BΓΆses- aber halt am liebsten wenn mein gegenΓΌber das auch so sieht.
@European Commission
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Mathzy
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Yeah - this was never going to work.

They could have just set up an EU Commission Mastodon instance - much simpler and cheaper!

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Dodo
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Also apart from that - as Wsocial already plans to monetarize itself starting '28, which means either free (for data) or advertising (with data) - or both, this is not an independent platform AT ALL. The current phase is for getting people socialized there, who then will be too accustomed to it to leave.
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Drew πŸ‡΅πŸ‡­
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Drew πŸ‡΅πŸ‡­
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Using US surveillance tech in order to be able to say they have an alternative to US surveillance tech...

You couldn't make it up.

#idiocracy

#Idiocracy
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an actual bus
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"fully decentralized, have your passport or ID ready" is fucking gold 🀣🀣🀣🀣
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JoΓ£o
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If government’s around the world continue blocking access to what we use now behind ID verification, will Mastodon and other Fediverse services be considered illegal or unsafe?

We see it now with GrapheneOS and VPN’s and other devices without Apple and Google store services.

It makes me wonder what is in store for the open source platform and community.

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Elena Rossini 🌈
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@joao72 this is precisely my fear and why I speak up against it. A very dangerous slippery slope and an existential threat to the Fediverse and the open web
@JoΓ£o
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derptron
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Trip. I wanted to look it up before making my claims but I can't find anything on them. There's a widentity.eu that has a privacy notice but, at least for me, it's a blank screen.

I'd bet your id information doesn't stay on your device but ends up on a blockchain of some sort. Maybe you have the option of not pushing, to enable the claim, but then nothing works because everything depends on the info being on the chain.

It's possible to do I think, but I'd be surprised.

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Al Weys
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Wo ist der Vorteil sich nicht gegenΓΌber der amerikanischen sondern der europΓ€ischen Kontrollwut und Deprivatisierungstendenzen gegenΓΌber nackig zu machen?
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ralf tauscher
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haha, thats entertaining to watch. want an invite to freiburg.social? show me your selfpainted passport. only valid in rainbow colors and if you have kids, its a must they have created it for you ;)))

@EUCommission

@European Commission
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Gruniversal
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Es scheint als wÀre WSocial für die EU-Kommission ein Fortschritt, wÀhrend hier bei Mastodon niemand nachvollziehen kann, warum die nicht einfach Allin gehen und konsequent das Fediverse pushen. Wahrscheinlich weil der Step für die X- und Bluesky-Menschen zu groß erscheint.
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Eggs now in different baskets.
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So, if you don't have an Android(like) OS on your phone/tablet/TV or iOS on your phone/iPad OS on your tablet you cannot get a Wsocial account?

But you should be able to use a Eurosky account interact with to Wsocial users, right? As both use the AT Protocol which includes federation functionality.

And Eurosky only requires an email address to register an account.

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ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’
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lol, fighting against πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ age verification or identity verification, but also asking passport & id verification for Europe apps at the name of decentralization. πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ˜…πŸ˜…
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chris πŸ”“ Digital Sovereignty
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chris πŸ”“ Digital Sovereignty
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> "No further comment necessary."

The irony stings: 'Digital Sovereignty' tied to foreign app stores, and 'security' meaning surveillance.
πŸ‘‰ These contradictions do demand deeper explanation.

#wsocial #digitalsovereignity #EU #surveillance

#EU #surveillance #wsocial #digitalsovereignity
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Baron v. Radbod
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Closing the gaps in Europe's digital infrastructure is a Herculean taskβ€”but one that must nonetheless be tackled.
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Poindex76
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Did you see the responses to this post extolling their commitment to open source?

ec.social-network.europa.eu/@E…


European Commission (@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu)

Attached: 1 image Open source technology is at the very heart of our digital strategy. We've chosen the EUROPA consortium to develop a highly advanced, open language model that spans all 24 official EU languages.
European Commission (European Commission on Mastodon)
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Elena Rossini 🌈
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Today #WSocial CEO Anna Zeiter will be participating at a panel discussion at the prestigious Cannes Lions: "A Sense of Impending Doomscrolling: Rebooting AI and Social Media."

The 30 min panel will be live-streamed at 4pm CET
πŸ”— : canneslions.com/festival/progr…

I'm interested in the AI bit because she previously gave some controversial statements but her video was deleted from YouTube.

If any of you have time to watch & report back, I would be SO GRATEFUL (family thing; I can't watch sadly)

A Sense of Impending Doomscrolling: Rebooting AI and Social Media

Panel after panel, we hear the same promise: AI and social media democratise creativity, unlock human potential and drive unprecedented efficiency.
www.canneslions.com
#wsocial
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Fox Trenton 🎱
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I will see if I can't record it and then send a link, either to the entire cast, or the AI part.
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Elena Rossini 🌈
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@sintrenton grazieeeeeee πŸ™ and no pressure if you can’t, very kind of you to offer. Love the spirit of the fediverse ❀️
@Fox Trenton 🎱
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Fox Trenton 🎱
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Prego, and unless my OBS Studio decides to not cooperate, I should have time.
Same here, that's why I love it here. πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘
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Fox Trenton 🎱
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So terribly sorry, I didn't manage to sign up, it seems to have decided I was not trustworthy, a lot of fields required data I couldn't supply. Terribly sorry, I tried.
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PhillyFan
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I tried to access it as well, but in order to view the 30 min panel discussion, a 99 euro streaming pass to the whole conference was required. If somebody has one, the site says a replay is available for the next 14 days.
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Elena Rossini 🌈
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@gjholmes wut? 😱

Aw thanks for letting me know, so no regrets at all for missing it πŸ˜…

@PhillyFan
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