I'm thinking of temporarily removing threads.net accounts from the popular accounts list on #FediDB because their follower counts include non-federating accounts.
What do you think?
https://fedidb.org/popular-fediverse-accounts
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- Remove threads.net from the Popular Accounts (82%, 14 votes)
- Keep threads.net accounts (17%, 3 votes)
CartyBoston
in reply to dansup • • •Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to CartyBoston • • •FediThing π³οΈβπ
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •@Natanox @CartyBoston
Yeah, kind of difficult to see how Meta can be classed as "behaving" when they have been cited as factor in multiple different real world massacres:
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-02-20/facebook-accused-of-letting-activists-incite-ethnic-massacres-with-hate-and-misinformation-by-survivors-in-ethiopia/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence
etc etc etc.
Rohingya sue Facebook for Β£150bn over Myanmar genocide
Dan Milmo (The Guardian)Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to FediThing π³οΈβπ • • •CartyBoston
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •@Natanox @FediThing
You want to talk about companies, I get it. I am talking about people.
FediThing π³οΈβπ
in reply to CartyBoston • • •@CartyBoston @Natanox
Companies that own an instance decide how that instance is run. We need to block instances that are run dangerously by amoral companies.
People can move to different instances that are run responsibly, that's the idea of the Fediverse.
Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to FediThing π³οΈβπ • • •@FediThing @CartyBoston Indeed.
It's a moral problem that's extensively exploited these days. "Platforms" use both the lock-in effects as well as marketing and propaganda tactics to make people feel bad for not wanting to interact with the platform, shifting the focus on the loss of social interaction. Simultaneously the blame is also shifted, from the crappy dicks who run the platform to the individual who DARES to avoid the platform - which is reinterpreted as being anti-social.
Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •@FediThing @CartyBoston The only solution to this is exactly what the Fedi does. Which is why Threads does NOT nor plans to ever allow moving accounts off of it.
It's here to exploit social behaviour, like Meta always does.
Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •FediThing π³οΈβπ
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •@Natanox
It's why we need to avoid having large instances, power concentrating in one place is root of centralisation.
Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ
in reply to FediThing π³οΈβπ • • •FediThing π³οΈβπ
in reply to Natasha Nox πΊπ¦π΅πΈ • • •Yup, I opened an issue about this when it happened:
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon-ios/issues/1023
I can see the argument for just suggesting one instance for people who don't want to do any choosing, but there's no reason that this has to be the biggest instance or even the same instance all the time.
There are so many other instances apart from m.s which have just as good a track record or better. A pool of those could be used, rotating randomly every so often.
That's what the Nextcloud website does when suggesting hosting companies, has a pool of good ones and randomly suggests one.
[BUG] App onboarding is directing new users to join mastodon.social by default Β· Issue #1023 Β· mastodon/mastodon-ios
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