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I understand the politics at play in appearing friendly to the USA at a national level, but any recruiter in a LGBTQIA friendly nation that is not at least shooting a discreet shot at queer American high-demand scientific, medical, and tech professionals is missing a huge opportunity.

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Lesley Carhart :unverified:
Lesley Carhart :unverified:
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Like incredibly high demand people are willing to take a substantial pay cut for a visa, even a temporary visa. Especially if they can bring a family. I’m in the back rooms. This is like nothing I’ve seen in America before.
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c0debabe :veilid:
c0debabe :veilid:
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So much talent up for grabs right now.
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Lesley Carhart :unverified:
Lesley Carhart :unverified:
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@c0debabe I mean people are willing to go anywhere it’s relatively safe to be gay.
@c0debabe :veilid:
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Marly Salazar
Marly Salazar
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@c0debabe I've been wracking my brain for a place that feels legitimately safe to be trans and I'm kind of coming up short. Any former UK colony seems like a time bomb, same with TERF island itself, Europe in general is too close to Russia for my comfort with Trump wanting to pull out of NATO. I don't have enough money to just go into hiding in SEA really. Japan is ultra conservative, same with Korea and China. Maybe Norway/Iceland? Still NATO concerns tho :/ idfk anymore
@c0debabe :veilid:
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Dany
Dany
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@mpuckett259 @c0debabe besides being close to Russia, mainland Europe is not making any progress in Trans rights. Some even looking to revert things, not as extreme as in the US but in a similar direction as the UK: starting with banning puberty blockers.
@c0debabe :veilid: @Marly Salazar
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Sean Edevane
Sean Edevane
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@Dany @mpuckett259 @c0debabe Heads up that Ireland probably won't be an immediate option for work visas right now. Sponsorships are paused due to the upcoming election, could be ~11 months before companies are processing them again
@c0debabe :veilid: @Marly Salazar @Dany
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Dennis Moser
Dennis Moser
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@c0debabe I realize that as a white, cis male a lot of privilege exists for me, but I am retired and have just spent 7 years here in Europe, the last 4 trying to get residency in France and have β€” literally β€” just exhausted my last appeal… I have to return to the US in 3 weeks… I have been worried for my LGBTQ+ friends and family for the past 8 years… #persist #resist #TrumpEtAliaDelendaEst
#resist #persist #trumpetaliadelendaest @c0debabe :veilid:
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\(^w^)/
\(^w^)/
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I’m doing this myself, getting a transfer to Dublin. There’s more important things than money right now
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Billy Smith
Billy Smith
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@raine

There's one sci-fi writer from Nevada, who was able to move to the UK, as his wife is English.

They moved back here, as it meant that he was able to get chemotherapy without going bankrupt. :D

@\(^w^)/
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randomwizard
randomwizard
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Kind of a shame that people have to rely on a company to do the right thing. Seems like a great time to form a collective union kind of organizing and form a company. Or for a government to say here is a golden opportunity to start an initiative to start tech companies and attract all this talent to compete with all the american tech monopolies.
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Cecilia Mjausson Huster
Cecilia Mjausson Huster
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@randomwizard Didn't Canada do that back in '08? Basically if you had a valid H1b and lost your job, they offered you a visa to try and find a job in Canada? Or am I misremembering?
@randomwizard
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MDreamscapesπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
MDreamscapesπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
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@mjausson @randomwizard Canada still accepts H1B visas but applications have been closed as the 10,000 number was reached in July. Currently Canada is reducing immigration and work permits due to housing shortages. However, given the direction the US is headed, targeted LGBT individuals maybe eligible for refugee status. Recommended referral agency is Rainbow Railroad.
@Cecilia Mjausson Huster @randomwizard
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Vars
Vars
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@muskokadreamscapes @mjausson @randomwizard Rainbow Railroad also helps move people within the US, if someone is reading this thread and needs to get out of their immediate surroundings they might be able to help
@Cecilia Mjausson Huster @MDreamscapesπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ @randomwizard
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K.N. Brindle (they/them)
K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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My partner is a math professor. I'm a licensed therapist. On paper, we should be in high-demand, but we also have 2 kids (11 & 13), a mortgage, etc, and moving to another country is an enormous upheaval (as you well know). We'd need some degree of job equivalency waiting for us to avoid massive disruption or a dance with poverty on the other end. Even *with* a guarantee of jobs, it would be incredibly hard, but we'd try, I think
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Lesley Carhart :unverified:
Lesley Carhart :unverified:
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@knbrindle I think the kids make it the hardest. I’m selling my house and starting over with a pallet and a few suitcases. Basically nothing, just to get out.
@K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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DrGeraintLLannfrancheta
DrGeraintLLannfrancheta
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@knbrindle big respect. But, 1933, better safe than sorry.
@K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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Lesley Carhart :unverified:
Lesley Carhart :unverified:
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@DrGeraintLLannfrancheta @knbrindle my family left Germany in time. I read history.
@DrGeraintLLannfrancheta @K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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Jonas KΓΆritz
Jonas KΓΆritz
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@DrGeraintLLannfrancheta @knbrindle irritating to see that migrating back to Germany now looks like a good option πŸ˜‘. Down under sounds fine as well.
@DrGeraintLLannfrancheta @K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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DrGeraintLLannfrancheta
DrGeraintLLannfrancheta
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the most important (first) thing is the mindset change of you, and the one you want potentially to take with you. Many are still in denial because it's easier. There will be no camps 21 Jan. Some time is there. So to prepare and be alert and vigilant is key. (For Germany the far right is my nemesis and I prepare if they would be in Government - unlikely but not impossible). Of course my family sees me as Cassandra :/ But ppl must remember 1932/33.
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Billy Smith
Billy Smith
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@knbrindle

Selling up and leaving, before you can only leave with what you can carry, before you leave with what you ar wearing.

Before you don't get to leave at all...

@K.N. Brindle (they/them)
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Alisdair Calder McGregor
Alisdair Calder McGregor
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we might be about to find out how much truth there is in that old joke about a plane crash on the way to a furry convention crippling the US internet infrastructure
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Happycow
Happycow
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I'm struggling to line up my next job in the US as is and share custody of my kid (who wanted out before the election and that's probably only increased since) with someone who's probably happy with the way things are going; so for at least a year and a half I feel like I'm stuck
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Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide
Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide
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Not just LGBTQIA either. The US is just becoming an unpleasant place to live with a lot of disadvantages compared to other western nations. The amount of brain drain that the US might experience depending just how off the rails things get here could be extreme.
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Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide
Infoseepage #StopGazaGenocide
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I've been getting my paperwork in order and will probably get at least some form of extended digital nomad type Visa prior to Trump's inauguration, but if something more stable with prospects of perm residency / immigration jumped out at me, I'd strongly consider it at this point.
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Louis Couture :quebec:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
Louis Couture :quebec:πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
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I mean it would always be fair game. If one nation offers something to someone that the other nation don't, then that person has the right to move
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πŸ¦„Cyber UnicornπŸ¦„
πŸ¦„Cyber UnicornπŸ¦„
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why just recruiters, politicians in other countries should be making changes to make migration of skilled workers from the US easier.
So many high skilled workers a country could attract to boost the economy.
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Rabbit
Rabbit
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I feel so lost. I can't seem to engage LGBTQIA+ friendly recruiters in -this- country, let alone internationally.
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Nerdy Echidna
Nerdy Echidna
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Their loss, our gain. Welcome to Oz. I hope you feel even more welcome down under than you wish for. Kinda makes me think of the Jewish brain drain from Europe on the lead-up to and during WWII. The US was forward-looking enough to capitalise from it, it's scary to see how far back the country has gone.
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azninsect #DB2024
azninsect #DB2024
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there's a few Australian political commentators that are saying exactly this. It would be silly for private and public enterprise to not be recruiting people wanting to leave the US right now
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B'ad Samurai 🐐
B'ad Samurai 🐐
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@azninsect when I was FIRST Montreal last year I distinctly remember a Canadian mentioning the amazing LGBT talent they were already receiving from the US.
@azninsect #DB2024
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Kluthulhu' XOR 1=1--
Kluthulhu' XOR 1=1--
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a mid-sized country could build an entire high-tech sector just from US expats right now
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maswan
maswan
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We have a position (linux devops, maybe leaning sysadmin for HPC) opening up soon, and I'm pushing my boss to get the paperwork done ASAP so we can advertise it, in particular to this crowd.
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David Chisnall
David Chisnall
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I didn't think we could sponsor visas, but it turns out that we might be able to. If there are any experienced hardware DV (traditional or formal verification) people who might want to move to the UK, please ping me!
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Aleksi Manninen
Aleksi Manninen
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Shit, couple of years ago this could have been #Finland. Unfortunately at the moment we have our own right wing nut jobs running our country to ruins. Hope everybody finds a safe place to live.
#finland
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