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“According to the Bible…”

No, fuck you. It’s the 21st century. Don’t you fucking quote the deluded ramblings of half-literate goatherds cobbled together through the years as a guide for anything. We’ve had 2,000 years of scientific advancement and we have nuclear weapons and your superstitious magic sky fairy bullshit is going to get us all killed.

in reply to Aral Balkan

tbf 2000 years of scientific advancement gave us nuclear weapons. If "magic sky fairy bullshit" doesn't get us all killed then technology will. The only thing that will save us is remembering that we are part of nature. If we think we are gods and wield technology over nature, then ecology will prove us wrong.
in reply to Daz

1st century thinking combined with 21st century technology is what’s going to get us killed.
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in reply to Aral Balkan

I appreciate the honesty, but science into human behaviour certainly points out that putting it to words like this only hardens the resistance, because it triggers a value judgement and group vs group conflict identity response.

To inflict change in a major judgement, one must slowly and tirelessly pick away at all the little prior judgements, that anchor it and hold it in place.

in reply to Aral Balkan

I take it to mean that you think all similar religious texts should also not be sources of truth then, including the Quran, the Torah etc.?

This is not an attempt at being facetious btw; I'm genuinely curious about your stance.

For my part, I get the sense that many of these texts are trying to impart cultural lessons about how to survive as humans in a society. I would imagine that these cultural lessons would tend to evolve over time, as humanity as a whole learns more about the world?

in reply to ermo | Rune Morling

@ermo Oh, no, those other fairy tales are entirely true.

We had culture and ethics far before organised religions. Superstitious belief and, furthermore systems dreamt up by men to subjugate women and exert control on society are in no way a prerequisite for leading an ethical life. If religious people act ethically, they are doing it despite the toxic venom in those texts, not because of it. And the ones acting according to those texts are busy commit genocide as we speak.

in reply to Aral Balkan

regardless of your thoughts about sky faries we human are capable of horrors without invoking religion. Its like everywhere.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Not forgetting that the "superstitious magic sky fairy bullshit" was stolen from Zarathrustra 🙃
in reply to Aral Balkan

a simple sentence that fully disproves the existence of God:

This sentence isn’t known to be true by any omniscient being.

#atheism #atheist #theism #religion #god

in reply to Aral Balkan

I think religious zealousness, ideology is harmful. Are some of the broader lessons still applicable? Sure. But not dogmatic adherence.

For example the biblical book of Proverbs has a few good bits here and there, but one must use RATIONAL JUDGEMENT to discern them. Sadly, rational judgment is generally lacking in society.

- Former uber strict Catholic, now non-commited who knows what

in reply to Aral Balkan

Oh I dunno, I think we could all have a bit more love thy neighbour these days.
in reply to Helidonkey

You don’t need to believe in a mass-murdering homophobic magic sky fairy to love your neighbour. In fact, it might make it easier to do so if you don’t.
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