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Thanks to the magic of the Streisand effect, I just heard about #CarelessPeople - a book by former Meta employee Sarah Wynn-Williams.

Apparently the company is FREAKING OUT and seeking legal ways to stop its promotion. I can see why. This article about it in the Times made my jaw drop: web.archive.org/web/2025031022…

I will definitely order it at my local bookshop.

🔗: bookshop.org/p/books/careless-…

Edit: included non-paywalled link (thanks @gemlog)

#books

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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

It is nice that she is revealing the inner works of Facebook.

But I can’t help thinking that she contributed to the making of the monster, that she most probably greatly benefited from it and that she will keep the wealth she gained from it.

But it is still nice to see this book coming out.

in reply to Michel Patrice

@MichelPatrice great points Michel. The same could be said for other Meta whistleblowers... but I find that what she has to say is really powerful because it comes from the inside of the company (not an outside critic). The general public is much more willing to hear from people like her...
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

True, we need these books, yet I have this little nagging voice in the back of my head.

But nevertheless, we need more of these books.

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Thanks for sharing, this sounds interesting! I just added it to my wishlist on #Kobo.
#kobo
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Thanks to BBC, I heard about the book's background today in an interview with Sarah Wynn-Williams: bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct6pn1
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Thanks for the tip.

Since it's DRM-protected, you can get it from that place (l*b*en.*s) where you can get e-books without DRM.

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Dunno why they're freaking out. People will clearly stay on those platforms no matter what they do.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Facebook is exactly as gross as we all figured it was. Here's a link that gets around the paywall: archive.ph/Gq7O8
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

The image says "Gift Article" but it isn't, the article is behind a paywall.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Found the audiobook version on overdrive.com (via my local library). I put it in my queue! 👍
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

[Facebook] 'Content moderation was painfully (and lethally) slow, she writes, because the company relied on one contractor who spoke Burmese: a “Burmese guy” based in Dublin, multiple time zones away from both Myanmar and Facebook’s California headquarters. “Myanmar demonstrates better than anywhere the havoc Facebook can wreak when it’s truly ubiquitous.”'
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

TY. I just added to the streisand effect by putting the link on reddit!
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I heard about it in a similar fashion and after work drove to my favorite local bookshop to pick up a copy. Stopped after reading three chapters, but only because I have to be up very early tomorrow. Fascinating (and well written) so far. #CarelessPeople
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Just called my local bookstore and they have 42 copies in stock. It might be 41 tomorrow morning :-)
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Don’t forget you can also use Libby to request it at your library. I had to do a “Deep Search” on the title to turn it up, but there’s already over 100 folks queued up and this kind of demand tells libraries to get more copies.

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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'm about a third of the way into the book, and it's pretty obvious why Facebook wants to block promotion. Zuckerberg comes off as a mal-adjusted adolescent (no surprise), and Sheryl Sandberg is shown to be a randomly explosive psycho.
#Facebook
#CarelessPeople
@gemlog
in reply to Ray Gulick, he/him/wtf

@rgulick I cannot wait to get started reading the book. Neither my library nor my local bookshops have it in stock… I need to be a little patient. I’m almost tempted to buy the Kindle edition too, to get access to it immediately and also to contribute to the sales rankings. Sadly bookshop.org doesn’t work here in France for e-books
in reply to Britstralian

@Nigel_Lake this is amazing! I’m almost tempted to buy the Kindle edition just to pump up these stats (in addition to the hardcover at my local bookshop)
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

my jaw didn’t drop as nothing out of Zuck’s world surprises me. And for those who want: Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for free without a subscription.

nytimes.com/2025/03/10/books/r…?

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

An update: last night I started reading #CarelessPeople and I cannot emphasize enough HOW GOOD it is. A real page-turner.

No wonder #Meta executives are trying to shut down its promotional tour. They come across as shallow, greedy and irresponsible.

The author wrote in the prelude that working there was "like watching a bunch of fourteen-year-olds who’ve been given superpowers and an ungodly amount of money, as they jet around the world to figure out what power has bought and brought them." 🔥

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

It's not a page turner for me, I have issues with not throwing my ereader across the room after every five pages or so.
in reply to Liminal witch 🧙‍♀️ Sarah

@xgebi I know! On the one hand it’s making me furious… on the other, it’s motivating me at every page to keep promoting the Fediverse and getting as many people as possible away from Meta’s toxic empire
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I just ordered it on bookshop.org. Sounds like a real peek inside this awful company. I’ve been Meta Free for a while now but it’s hard convincing European relatives to stop using WhatsApp.
in reply to gio

@stevegio I hear you!

One of my greatest accomplishments in this fight was convincing my entire family (and extended family) plus 98% of my friends to install Signal in 2020... so I could keep communicating with them.

Back in Jan 2020 I couldn't bear staying on Whatsapp one extra minute. I wrote about this here: therealists.org/2020/01/quitti…

@gio
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'll see some of them face to face this April. Might be a good time to see if I can convince them to make the switch. I have some US cousins I can lobby as well. Signal is an excellent replacement. Even if it just turns out to be the app they communicate with their eccentric american cousin.
in reply to gio

@stevegio it is hard here. I think that 95% of the Dutch people are on WhatsApp. I went over to Signal but do far just one contact there. No family, one colleague.
@gio
in reply to Eveline Sulman 🟥 🇳🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦

@EvelineSulman @stevegio it’s actually the same in France and Italy - the entire population seems to be on WhatsApp and can’t fathom using anything else.

I was really lucky that I managed to convince my whole family and 99% of my friends to install Signal in Jan 2020 to keep communicating with me ☺️

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I started reading it last night too. I'm only a few chapters in yet, but yes, definitely a much easier read than it might have been, and I haven't got to all the juicy bits yet 😝
in reply to 🍄💀Shye Strange💀🍄

@shyestrange ha! I’ve been glued to it since the beginning and found already so many juicy bits. Like the meeting with New Zealand’s Prime Minister - I experienced real second hand embarrassment. Zuck comes across as a socially inept Michael Scott.

I’m only at chapter 6 and I can’t wait to read more…

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

People are apparently under a delusion that wealth, fame, and power imbue their holders with any augmenting attributes they didn't have before. That's very obviously untrue, if you stop to think about it. If I give some idiot $1M, they're not a better person for it; they're just an idiot with $1M. Same with a jerk or anyone else.

Some of these folks we hear about are authentically successful on their own merits. But a lot are just faking it well.

in reply to WesDym

@wesdym beautifully said. My least favorite people in the world are 3 billionaires who are probably also malignant narcissists who accrued wealth thanks to a combination of: their origins, luck, no ethics, so, yeah, I hear you
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Thx for the tip, will check it out 👍🏻

Not that my book pile isn’t high enough yet, but there are never enough insights around this topic.

in reply to EloPup

@EloPup this book is SOOO GOOD! As I wrote to someone else, it's so good I wish I could just curl up on a sofa and spend the whole day reading it (but I can't, because... life, work, parenting). Anyway, I know what I'll be reading tomorrow morning from 6am to 7:30am 🙃
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

That‘s great to hear 🙂!! It definitely just made it to the top of my book shopping list, tho over here the English paper version seems to be quite hard to get at the moment.
Might have sth to do with this:

bbc.com/news/articles/cq5zyq02…

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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

There is an interview with the author on The News Agents. Curiously the viewing figures seem quite low for a rare interview given #Meta blocking promoting the book.

youtu.be/1hXgwseN9s0

#meta
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I’m hold number 107!!!!
It’s going to be a minute. Might need to buy this one if it’s really that good. Thanks for the recommendation.
in reply to Tim

@InnerAlien aw! Yeah seems like a long wait.

I got up at 6am to resume reading it before my 4-year-old wakes up 🤗

@Tim
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Update no. 2:

Yesterday my 4-year-old woke up at 7am thus thwarting my plans to read #CarelessPeople for a good hour.

So today I woke up at 6am to resume reading the book. It’s THAT GOOD.

The leaders at #Meta have been shockingly irresponsible in their decisions since the early days. All they care about? Gathering data and influence and making big bucks. I’m so glad I got out of all their platforms and I’m on the #Fediverse instead.

History books won’t be kind to Zuck, Sandberg et al.

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

it looks like history books are not going to get published if the US administration gets it their way
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Excerpt from #CarelessPeople 📖:

« When we start to run into politicians who put up roadblocks to our expansion, the growth team is quick to suggest that we “juice” the algorithm to help them bolster their Facebook presence. The way they put that? “Let’s dial up the algorithm to give politicians some love.” »

🤯

BTW Javi Olivan, who led the growth team at the time, has been elevated to the role of Meta’s COO (since the departure of Sheryl Sandberg).

🔗: bookshop.org/p/books/careless-…

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'm pretty happy with Germany's part in that book so far. 😄
Still 2/3 to go! #merkel
in reply to Chris 🦑

@sturmsucht have you gotten yet to the trip to Indonesia and them playing a board game with Zuck? I’m absolutely 💀 (won’t spoil it for you, but it’s a priceless anecdote)
in reply to Chris 🦑

@sturmsucht OMG you’re gonna love that part Chris. It’s such a delicious roast 🔥
in reply to Chris 🦑

@sturmsucht you should have seen my face when I was reading that part. How embarassing!!!

I mean, I would let my toddler win at things but now that she's getting older I understand it's better for her character building to see she can't win every time...

Zuck lives in a whole other galaxy. No wonder he has so much hubris

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Totally. A bunch of kids with infinite money and he is their king.

And then the other parts where they want to sacrifice an employee for jail to see if Zuck gets arrested in South Korea. Or the board defining motherhood as a you problem you should not talk about. Or willingly betraying identities of their Hong Kong customers to the Chinese government to be able to enter their market ...

in reply to Chris 🦑

@sturmsucht yes yes and yes. I couldn't believe they even considered sending the mom of a 7-month-old infant to a foreign country (where she didn't speak the language) with the possibility of her being arrested and detained.

Don't they say that a sign of sociopathy is complete lack of empathy?

It's abhorrent to see how many influential world leaders (politicians, businessmen) fit the description of "sociopath"

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'm hearing the audio book and just passed the half. now the part starts where rich kids turn true evil.
in reply to Chris 🦑

@sturmsucht aw great! BTW I found them evil since the beginning, so I'm bracing myself for what's to come
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

You have to love the savage efficiency of the Streisand effect: Sarah Wynn-Williams' Facebook exposé #CarelessPeople skyrocketed to the top of the NYTimes Bestseller List on its debut week. It's the second most purchased book on Amazon (US) as well.

I'm about halfway through the book and I wish I could be in a book club to discuss it. The anecdotes about Facebook's top leaders and their ineptitude / selfishness are so delicious. Fair and fierce attacks, in beautiful prose.

#books

in reply to skribe 🇺🇦

@skribe please don't remind me about an awesome Fediverse project I have yet to join.

I have way too many Fediverse accounts as it is 😵‍💫 😅

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

you could easily establish a bookclub on Friendica. You're already there.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

As soon as I caught wind that Meta is trying to squash it, I bought an e copy (saving it for this weekend).

If it causes grief to Zuckerman, its worth the $ to me.

in reply to Third spruce tree on the left

@tezoatlipoca you are going to LOVE IT! It's a page turner from the start, but chapter 16 (about their trip to Indonesia) is next level. I'm so sad I don't have anyone to discuss it with. Just absolutely priceless anecdotes...
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

The shark attack story is so New Zealand! If it werenʼt for Meta, I wouldnʼt even know about it!
in reply to Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

@jackyan I finished it pretty much in one day. Even though I sort of knew most of it, it's still so powerful when someone who was actually there, having the conversations with those in power, writes it down so well.
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Probably because sociopaths have the emotional maturity of a child. On #Meta executives:

"working there was "like watching a bunch of fourteen-year-olds who’ve been given superpowers and an ungodly amount of money, as they jet around the world to figure out what power has bought and brought them."

#meta
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

Thanks, I wanted to get that book. Definitely a Streisand effect purchase!

I also added it to my library backup in case it gets pulled for some reason.

in reply to Veronica Olsen 🏳️‍🌈🇳🇴🌻

@veronica you won't regret it - the book is PHENOMENAL (and really well-written). I wish I could just say curl up on a sofa and spend the whole day reading it, but... responsibilities! 😅

And very smart re: your library backup in case it gets pulled

in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂

I'm coming down with something, so that may actually be what I will do. 😁

Got a new eReader with colour highlighter too, and this is the kind of book where I may highlight a lot too!

in reply to Veronica Olsen 🏳️‍🌈🇳🇴🌻

Half way through, and it really is well written. It is also a lot more personal than I expected.

I keep rolling my eyes at the Zuck and his gang though. I can see why he doesn't want it out there!

in reply to Kermode

@geos I mean I knew they were terrible, but the book is taking down their status and dignity about 100 notches.

They are embarassingly immature and self-centered and the myriad of anecdotes about their ineptitude and shallowness are sure to sting (in the eyes of the public, too)