Does anyone use the SimpleX app?
Those who use the SimpleX application, I would like to know if there are communities or privacy groups, the truth is Lemmy is my only social platform, a few years ago I closed everything I had to finally stop being part of the herd, or if possible.
SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (not even random)
SimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send messages and make calls.simplex.chat

Steve
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •They even have an official directory.
Due to the nature of the platform, privacy is a common theme for many of them.
SimpleX Directory
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Tundra
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in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •munkinasack
in reply to Valarie • • •Same.
We should start a chat on it.
youmaynotknow
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in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •cosmicglitch
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •Yes, there are privacy groups of different kinds.
Try it, it's not as hard as some people say, the onboarding and interface has been refined.
Look for "Simplex directory" and search there for groups.
kixik
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •The only sad thing is that it's centralized, kind of signal but better.
On the privacy front I believe xmpp + omemo shines, and jami is also very interesting (though jami for some reason is doing efforts to allow LLMs agents and bots, through plugins of course not by default, but I don't see the need of any of that stuff on something like jami). Sadly briar is on maintain mode and it was really bad on phones' batteries, tox never took of leaving only jami like a viable distributed alternative. xmpp is decentralized and federated, doing pretty well with omemo...
Shrouded0603
in reply to kixik • • •kixik
in reply to Shrouded0603 • • •You're right, I forgot, in that regard for example with xmpp, besides being able to self-host you have multiple services, perhaps eventually there might be non just simpleX services but hosted by others as well, though it seems whether simpleX or self-host for now. So it's true it's decentralized by definition, perhaps not so much in practice though.
There's another sad thing I just remember, it doesn't yet support multi-divice syncing, and the alternative is to create groups with different members, one per device, and then in the same group apply the same for all other multi-device members. The reaction so far from the devs is that it's not so important having a workaround at hand. So both things made me drop my trials with simpleX...
Shrouded0603
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in reply to kixik • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •I dont use it because of the lack of moderatoon tools for groups.
Also main groups are filled with transphobes and fascists, with moderators there doing nothing.
Matt
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •SimpleX Directory
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in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •Yes, but there were three gotchas that make it difficult to use for our purposes - one is that you have to have your phone on and connected if you want to use the same account on another device. Given I use my phone as much like a dumb phone as possible and turn data off when I don't need it (aka most of the time) it's impractical to use. We kinda got around this by having different accounts for different devices bit it left you guessing which account to contact someone on because you don't know if they're on their phone, laptop, PC, etc.
It uses a a chunk of battery and the devs seem completely disinterested in UnifiedPush.
A lesser but helpful feature that's lacking is web chat. It's a lot easier to get family and friends sold on alternate chat clients if they can try it out using a web browser they already have instead of installing yet another app.
Mio
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People really need to chill about who invests on what and who donates to whom. Those actions are not equal to having control or even fully agreeing to anything.
Jack Dorsey invested via an investment firm, it's not like he bought the brand or project or anything of the sort.
SimpleX network: the investment from Jack Dorsey and Asymmetric, v6.0 released with the new user experience and private message routing.
simplex.chatOphrys
in reply to youmaynotknow • • •greencoil
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •I'm curious why you would be interested in public groups on Simplex? Its great for direct messages and small friend/invite only groups. But what would you gain in terms of privacy with public groups? If the challenge to entry is "click this public invite link", you should assume bots are joining and scraping anything with triple digit member counts. If your threat model is focused on corporate surveillance, public group chats aren't that much different than community forums that lack a bot friendly API for scraping. Which is to say, very easy to scrape still if anyone actually cares to.
As others have mentioned, the moderation tools are basically nonexistent and bigotry runs rampant. Even if you try to organize alternative groups to the Nazi bars, you will not have any tools to stop organized harassment.
Ryo Succubus
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •pixeldaemon
in reply to Ryo Succubus • • •SimpleX is an encrypted instant messaging app, it's not designed as a social network or a forum.
Large group members often suffer from unreceiving some messages, due to group encryption complexity. It's almost like the famous "unable to decrypt message" in Matrix. Maybe one can create an unencrypted group, but then it makes no sense to use SimpleX.