So you always know what is the risk and who's responsible for it with Chinese tech, and for American tech you'll never know who's stealing your data and what enshittification will happen on the next day
Because western tech has the same backdoors. look at the NSA leaks and western legislation that allows governments to mandate back doors with gag orders.
The banning of eastern tech is not because the tech may have back doors, it because they likely don't have western back doors.
whataboutism – as long as you’re distracted by “China!”, you aren’t paying attention to the far more egregious privacy violations happening right here at home
When MH370 disappeared and there was speculation that USAmerica had made it disappear, my mate at the time said “there’s no way America would do that”.
US security agency reports that China-made hospital patient monitors contain a backdoor that sends confidential monitoring data to a third-party university.
Everyone seems to be talking, but no one is really listening. Your privacy and security are your own responsibility; relying on others to make changes is unwise.
I mean it's been talked about over and over again leading to US accusing TikTok of spying on users and EU* banning Huawei and ZTE from 5G infrastructure. But end users just doesn't care. They click accept all on every popup without even reading if it's cookies or to allow the site to send scam antivirus notifications. They buy the cheap chinese phone because it's cheap just as they buy shit from Temu and Shein even when their plastic is poisonous and their workers are stuck with 75 hour weeks and not being allowed to leave the premises.
It's already here. We exploit incarcerated people for slave labor, and (I'm sure purely out of coincidence /s) we have one of the highest incarceration rates of any nation in the world. Not to mention private prisons, which is not a thing that would exist in any state existing in good faith.
Yep! And it wasn't that long ago I actually lost my job explicitly for being gay, which was totally legal. That's one of the reasons the US has to fear-monger about other nations, so we won't notice the exact same things or worse happening here.
Bold of you to assume I'm a boy... Don't worry I'm used to it sweetie many people, especially brainwashed tankie trolls tend to not understand or respect Nonbinary identities.
They don't have the mental capacity to hold anything remotely ambiguous or undefined in their rigid minds. So they try to force reality to conform to their overly simplistic little mental landscape.
The valid answer is that the Chinese police state has no authority over individuals in the West and is unlikely to share information with Western law enforcement given the geopolitical situation. In narrow terms, that makes for an inadvertent privacy win for individuals in the West.
But the problem you describe is certainly real (whatever other seem to think here) for countries in China's sphere of influence, in Asia, Africa, Latin America. For them, China is already selling off-the-peg solutions for mass surveillance. If your country's homegrown dictator gets his hands on this stuff, it's going to be harder than ever to get rid of him.
For us the problem is rather that China is pioneering and normalizing practices that will certainly be adopted and copied one day by our own police forces with our own technology.
Snot Flickerman
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in reply to Snot Flickerman • • •Cyrus Draegur
in reply to zbyte64 • • •... because production capacity collapsed due to graft and all the shelves are empty.
But worry not, Comrade, for at least the higher up ranks of The Party got theirs! And that's all they care about.
Don't complain or you will be invited to have a discussion and no one will ever see your entire family ever again.
Virkkunen
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in reply to Virkkunen • • •slazer2au
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •Because western tech has the same backdoors. look at the NSA leaks and western legislation that allows governments to mandate back doors with gag orders.
The banning of eastern tech is not because the tech may have back doors, it because they likely don't have western back doors.
Bloomcole
in reply to slazer2au • • •cerement
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •logical fallacy
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)lemmeBe
in reply to cerement • • •The average American's naivety is best embodied by Rick Derringer and his "Real American."
We're the real deal, we're the heroes. Everyone else poses danger except us.
Darleys_Brew
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in reply to Darleys_Brew • • •WhatSay
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •I suggest Toms Hardware
Medical
Cameras
Telecom
Routers
Backdoor uncovered in China-made patient monitors — Contec CMS8000 raises questions about healthcare device security
Roshan Ashraf Shaikh (Tom's Hardware)Hangout7287
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anamethatisnt
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •I mean it's been talked about over and over again leading to US accusing TikTok of spying on users and EU* banning Huawei and ZTE from 5G infrastructure.
But end users just doesn't care. They click accept all on every popup without even reading if it's cookies or to allow the site to send scam antivirus notifications. They buy the cheap chinese phone because it's cheap just as they buy shit from Temu and Shein even when their plastic is poisonous and their workers are stuck with 75 hour weeks and not being allowed to leave the premises.
*Not all EU countries has chosen to ban them.
cybernews.com/security/bytedan…
euronews.com/next/2024/08/12/e…
Eleven EU countries took 5G security measures to ban Huawei, ZTE
Cynthia Kroet (Euronews.com)Darleys_Brew
in reply to anamethatisnt • • •That will be coming to the western world before you know it.
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grey_maniac
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •JubilantJaguar
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •The valid answer is that the Chinese police state has no authority over individuals in the West and is unlikely to share information with Western law enforcement given the geopolitical situation. In narrow terms, that makes for an inadvertent privacy win for individuals in the West.
But the problem you describe is certainly real (whatever other seem to think here) for countries in China's sphere of influence, in Asia, Africa, Latin America. For them, China is already selling off-the-peg solutions for mass surveillance. If your country's homegrown dictator gets his hands on this stuff, it's going to be harder than ever to get rid of him.
For us the problem is rather that China is pioneering and normalizing practices that will certainly be adopted and copied one day by our own police forces with our own technology.
marauding_gibberish142
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •Just so you know; American tech is the exact same with different overlords, and Europe is actively banning encryption.
Where do you want to go?
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MangoPenguin
in reply to terusgormand8465 • • •Generally I don't think Chinese tech is really any worse than "US" (aka; made in china by a US company) tech.
The software running on phones and stuff is likely worse though, some things should be avoided.