apperently meta gets to pick it, and it is not a public api.

No they dont, and it's a public modified Matrix-protocol. Why would you lie about that?

The problem is that WhatsApp can demand third parties to meet very high standards, making it impossible for independent actors to gain access to this.

You need a pretty well run machinery to live up to the standard, but if they do, WhatApps can legally not deny access.

If they do, it's in violation of the DMA, which gives you a 10% of all global income in fees.

These has been used against Meta and Google before, and there's no reason to believe they wont do it again. They actually live up to it.

Signal wont do it because they cant use their own protocol. You still have to use WhatsApps, which makes it flawed.

I also hope for good clients, but maybe the rules will change further before there's any real use case for it. Maybe it's too expensive compared to making your own?

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Again, I dont think you can access it unless you follow the rules.

I guess it's not true public, but you can if you meet the requirements.

Have anybody found any news about when serious alternatives will be integrated?

...never? They're not integrated because they don't want them integrated. This is malicious compliance. Even if they were, the opt-in nature would make it completely useless. Much like Apple's RCS integration.

The Birdy app requires a work email, which then gets you on a wait list, so that you can subject yourself to their data mining:

Data Categories:

• The email address you use as username on BirdyChat network;
• Your messages and media within messages;
• User identifiers for blocked WhatsApp users;
• Usage information including timestamps related to your communication with WhatsApp users;
• Device and connection information such as IP address, operating system information and the BirdyChat version you are using;
• General location information using your IP address;
• Authentication information including encryption keys that WhatsApp encryption protocol uses;
• WhatsApp user reports in case a WhatsApp user chooses to share this information with WhatsApp.

I'm going to setup my own open source chat server soon and just give the few people that need to talk to me a copy of the open source client. That you can use to talk to me, the rest will be gone

I'm sooooo fucking tired of every company and government wanting to inspect my asshole just so they know that toilet paper to advertise to me or to be sure that I'm "not a terrorist or a pedophile because the government totally is doing this to protect the children, absolutely!!!"

Fuck your lies

Fuck your marketing

And apologies for my French, I'm just reeeeeeaaaally done with this nonsense

I understand the DMA interop thing quite well, and it is a private API. The matrix bridge does not use official interop as the Matrix foundation has given up on plans to do interop, as it requires geolocating (and then georestricting) their users.

The current, longstanding, matrix bridge requires you to have the WhatsApp app installed on your phone, with a working account.