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Orion: a fantastic browser for IOS, Mac & Linux !


Not really a review more just a recommendation for those who might be interested.

Developed by the wonderful folks at Kagi Search! On IOS and Mac the app is designed off WebKit. And offers built in ad block and pretty strong telemetry block.

It also works with certain Chrome extensions.

I’ve been using it primarily on IOS. My only two gripes is the cookie clear on close doesn’t work and the logo really is just another butthole.

Certain sites freak out but I don’t want to lower the settings so it’s a compromise im ok with it.

If your on IOS might be worth checking out !

Haven’t tried the Linux version but I’m going to soon.

in reply to 64bithero

+1. Orion is fantastic on OSX/iOS.

…It's not ready for Linux, though. You can try it as an oddity, but give it more time in the oven.

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in reply to 64bithero

In beta, available as a Flatpak.

Seemed janky for me, but I only tried it for a few minutes.

in reply to brucethemoose

Where can you download it from? Can't find it on their website or flathub.

Edit: nvm - "The alpha version of Orion for Linux is currently only available to Orion+ supporters and can be downloaded from the Billing Dashboard under the Orion browser section." $5/month for the privilege to be an alpha tester, ok.

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in reply to 64bithero

YSK, it's not open source. It's not even source available for that matter. They've promised to go open source for a while now, but not much progress has been made.

browser.kagi.com/faq.html#oss

in reply to Lytia

True but Firefox is open source and they dump a ton of ai garbage in their stuff now. And while it being open source has allowed for Librewolf it’s not in itself a magic bullet
in reply to 64bithero

Open source is not a magic bullet but it's a baseline requirement for trust.
in reply to Lytia

Privacy and open source are two separate things.
in reply to Steve

Sure, but closed source means that you are accepting a corporate "pinky promise" instead of a claim that can actually be independently verified.
in reply to Steve

Are you suggesting this browser made by the Kagi corporation isn't a corporate product?
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in reply to UnspecificGravity

Not at all. Of course it is.

Just pointing out there are many non-corporate closed source products.

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in reply to Steve

Privacy requires software to be open source, or at least source available. Open source does not require privacy.
in reply to 64bithero

Has anyone been able to get uBO to work on their IOS app? I installed it but it doesn’t seem to really do anything.
in reply to 64bithero

I’m not a fan, I have it installed but to me it’s not enough better than FF or Safari to use daily.
in reply to 64bithero

I tried it years ago, it looks more mature now but I’m so used to Safaris “Hide distractions” feature that I’m missing it dearly after less than an hr of trying it out :(
in reply to Etnaphele

uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Lite (both browser extensions) have a similar feature :)
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in reply to 64bithero

Great to have browser that’s not using Chromium, I like having another WebKit browser in the wild that’s not Safari.
in reply to 64bithero

Now that SecureBlue has made Trivalent available with its selinux architecture that should be everyones go to if your on a Fedora based system.

I'd take Mullvad or Brave on Windows over this

I'd also use Safari over this for anything in Apple ecosystem

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in reply to upstroke4448

Various criticisms of the browsers you listed:
- Trivalent and Brave have a chromium base, forgivable but putting aside the chromium monopoly there are various issues with that base. It doesn't let you easily create duplicate bookmarks, has no equivalent of about:config, and pretend I thought of a third thing because just listing two is weird.
- Brave has a built-in AI chatbot that you can't remove AFAIK.
- Mullvad ... probably better to use Noscript and Ublock Origin on Firefox ESR. It'll get faster security updates that way.
in reply to FoundFootFootage78

All of your criticisms have nothing to do with privacy or security. Some of them, like what you said about mullvad, is rooted in fud. Which tells me we have different priorities when it comes to browser choice.

I will agree the brave shit is annoying but hopefully Brave Origin will fix that. Their fingerprint and tracker protection is undeniable though.

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in reply to FoundFootFootage78

And brave is a series scam company. Always has been, always will be.
in reply to 64bithero

Extensions are unreliable especially Dark Reader on iOS.
in reply to 64bithero

That logo is already giving me AI vibes. I'm sticking with floorp.