I did not try it and have closed the window after the popup because it was too ridiculous. I was able to find an article about this, looks like the rollout started a week ago cybernews.com/privacy/google-q…
This is beyond insane. 'An approved device'. So, my device has to be approved by a fucking company. This is where all this bullshit has led. Companies now get to dictate the life of every person in the world. I'm going to be spending a lot of time away from the internet moving forward. Thank God we have Lemmy.
Scan this QR code with your moble device to verify if you have been rickrolled. reCAPTCHA protects you from rickrolling and will not give you up and share your details with rickrollers nor it will let you down and desert you.
How are people surprised by this??? This change has been constantly in the news for weeks now. How are people missing this? Its basically googles way to bypass all the backlash to age verification, because most phones are linked to peoples identity, phone number, etc.
Good thing that everyone has a smartphone as a secondary device. God forbid you would not be able to scan a QR code, what are we, the middle ages?!?! (and I'm not even starting on the absurdity of why you would want to do it, that's another point)
Any service implementing this shit will be on my list of never using it again. Even if my bank do such shit I'll be moving to another one. Zero tolerancy. This is beyond the limits.
I agree, and this is strictly because Google wants to kill forks like Graphene OS. Anybody who implements this is going to get their tab immediately closed on my browser and I'm never going back. I will have zero tolerance for this.
Reminds me of those privacy policies. "We don't sell your data!" in the big type. When you dig more into the fine print... they don't! But they do "share it within their partner family of companies". And then THOSE companies sell it. Or sometimes, sell inferences made from it, even if not sell the data.
archive.is has always been really problematic about having overly-aggressive google spyware captchas. half of the time i try to follow one of those links the captcha just outright rejects me because of "suspicious activity" before i can even start
very cool to see that it's somehow gotten infinitely worse
Ugh, yeah. Cloudflare too. I hate it. It's like 2/3 of sites I try,
Blah blah needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding.
Then it goes to an enedless reload loop. Or gets stuck.
I went to a site last week that belonged to a human rights organization. It's a ranking of countries by different aspects like economic freedom or w/e, and some articles about their methodolgy. Couldn't load it due to fucking Cloudflare. Cloudflare does not deem me worthy to read about human rights.
Why? Because I try to protect my right to privacy. The irony.
That's what google's been using to lockout non official Android forks like GrapheneOS. You can click on the eye icon at the bottom to get the regular captcha though... for now.
Requires Google Play Services, from what I've heard, meaning it will only allow people who have phones pre approved by Google. I assume they also made some Apple service also acceptable. Can't cut out their friends
If you click the eye icon at the bottom you can go back the original captcha. For now at least.
Also I have no idea why archive.is uses reCAPTCHA from google! You've set up monaro as your only donation system so clearly you care about privacy but you haven't implemented an open source captcha?
I never trusted it, I've never in my life scanned a QR code with my phone. But I never learned about it so whatever I just naturally do not trust anything computer.
I don't have a smartphone and I keep running into more and more of these QR codes. If I, as a citizen, am required to get a smartphone for these QR codes, to do citizen-like things, then it should be a utility and prices for hardware and services should come way down.
You get by without a smartphone? I was really late to get one but you just can't function in today's society without one where I'm at. In the Heart of Darkness here.
You can function in today's society just fine, it's just less convenient.
But the problem here is not only that you need a smartphone to begin with, but also one specifically from either Google or Apple. Having something else (like a phone with Sailfish or GrapheneOS or any other custom rom) also doesn't work.
I am switching to graphene OS first chance I get, it should be this summer, damn the consequences.
I lived most of my life without any type of cell phone let alone a smart one. I'm going back to our roots, to reject this techno fascist bullshit it's only downhill from here on their gear.
The general crowd doesn't seem to care about the trends that make graphene common sense and I suspect that Google would take measures if it ever did like they're currently doing to fdroid.
They'd have to make Android propiatary for that and that also means that all the contributions made to it by everybody else will stop. Don't see that happening.
Switch to GrapheneOS anyway. If a website forces verification with a phone that passes strict Play Integrity with no other options, then don't use it, or use a $30 Walmart phone if you must.
In china it's the norm. And I was feeling the same way, until I realized china takes way better care of its citizens vs USA. Everything is convenient, healthcare, etc.
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I don't know the answer to that, I've only been to Beijing.
But overall, id argue with healthcare, public transit, building a new hospital when covid hit specifically for it, it seems like they're doing better than nickel and diming them to death like USA. It costs money to breath here. Their EV setup is off the charts too. Even Ford CEO complimented it and drives a Chinese EV.
I know a few people that live in rural USA and tap the ground for free water. Waste water from shower goes on random land and brown water into septic and get emptied when full.
Super cheap compared to my city water.
On the flip side they have complete shit internet access while I got fiber.
They have to drive a ways (1 hr) for groceries and I got like 5 within 10in drive. Hell I could walk 20min to a convenience store or two.
Where I live (US) lots of people don't have running water, not even wells. People live in their cars, in RVs, in tents. Having to bathe in gas station restrooms. US isn't going to fix it either, it's a feature of capitalism, the only way they keep us working such shit jobs is with the threat of homelessness. Home ownership in China is really high, like over 95%. Having that freedom would mean that I could do rainwater catch if I was in a rural area, lots of rural homes (esp eco homes) in the US catch rainwater and store it, like for an off-grid setup. I'd say making sure people own homes so they can be more self-sufficient is taking care of them in one of the most important ways. Letting them own a part of the wealth of their nation instead of squatting under overpasses because they can't afford rent
The great Chinese achievement last century was lifting hundreds millions out of people poverty. That wont be everyone and some will still be living rough.
Probably by not having an entry level job. The companies love to make money off people any way they can, but potentially losing a highly skilled, long term trained employee would be worse than losing the income from the apps' data they can sell.
I think I read on a lemmy post the other day that archive.is... kills babies? I don't remember what it was, but that they're bad and shouldn't be used because of the badness.
Yes, I "like" the surprises scanning a unknown QR code. I hate this crap, same as this short URLs, it's not different from clicking on shady ad banners. A trustworth website don't need this shit, hiding its domain.
Your QR code scanner showns you the URL before you choose to open it, right? So I don't really get the comparison to short URLs. As with any normal link, you get to see the link before you choose to "click" the QR code after you scan it.
Because a qr code is not a url. You might get one flashed, but it's just like a 40 page eula: the amount of people who are going to pay attention is an order of several magnitudes smaller.
We start here: You see an URL -> if it's a shortened URL, that's problematic, if it's a normal URL, it's ok you can click it
Now we add a QR code to the equation: You scan a QR code -> You see an URL -> if it's a shortened URL, that's problematic, if it's a normal URL, it's ok you can click it
But you don't agree.
Why is adding the "You scan a QR code" step making a difference? You compare looking at an URL to reading a 40 page EULA, I don't think 1 line of text is comparable to 40 pages of text, but let's go with it. Some people won't read it, I definitely agree with that. If they click links without reading then, then they click links without reading them. Again, why is adding the step of scanning a QR code before the link shows up, making anything different? You can read and choose to click it or not all the same, whether the link appeared due to scanning a QR code, or whether it was on web page.
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in reply to GreenCrunch • • •How are people surprised by this??? This change has been constantly in the news for weeks now. How are people missing this? Its basically googles way to bypass all the backlash to age verification, because most phones are linked to peoples identity, phone number, etc.
cybernews.com/privacy/google-q…
IndustryStandard
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in reply to Serinus • • •It's goes to recapt cha.net/qr/mMs9S9g8
(Space addes to break the link.)
sic_semper_tyrannis
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in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •IIRC Anubis uses cookies so that the website doesn't test you again for X amount of time.
edit From the Anubis docs: anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/… (behind Anubis)
Making sure you're not a bot!
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •We foxes promise not to let any predators into the henhouse.
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in reply to melfie • • •I love how they used that period. Seems way better than that lawyer guy from the Simpsons.
melfie
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •archive.is has always been really problematic about having overly-aggressive google spyware captchas. half of the time i try to follow one of those links the captcha just outright rejects me because of "suspicious activity" before i can even start
very cool to see that it's somehow gotten infinitely worse
like this
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FineCoatMummy
in reply to Lunar • • •Ugh, yeah. Cloudflare too. I hate it. It's like 2/3 of sites I try,
Then it goes to an enedless reload loop. Or gets stuck.
I went to a site last week that belonged to a human rights organization. It's a ranking of countries by different aspects like economic freedom or w/e, and some articles about their methodolgy. Couldn't load it due to fucking Cloudflare. Cloudflare does not deem me worthy to read about human rights.
Why? Because I try to protect my right to privacy. The irony.
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
in reply to taiyang • • •Þe stated reason is a lie. Þis isn't about verifying anyone is human.
But you knew þat.
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in reply to kittenzrulz123 • • •kalpol
in reply to InFerNo • • •Yeah honestly we should bring back more Old English characters.
Ash (æ) - between "a" and "e" like in cat
Wynn (ƿ) - "w" sound, that will really throw them off
Yogh (ȝ) - "y" or guttural "gh" sound
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •For those curious:
HiddenLayer555
in reply to CosmicTurtle0 [he/him] • • •TL;DR:
Supported Environments for reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification:
Fuck Google
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •If you click the eye icon at the bottom you can go back the original captcha. For now at least.
Also I have no idea why archive.is uses reCAPTCHA from google! You've set up monaro as your only donation system so clearly you care about privacy but you haven't implemented an open source captcha?
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in reply to teyrnon • • •You can function in today's society just fine, it's just less convenient.
But the problem here is not only that you need a smartphone to begin with, but also one specifically from either Google or Apple.
Having something else (like a phone with Sailfish or GrapheneOS or any other custom rom) also doesn't work.
teyrnon
in reply to kevinsky • • •I am switching to graphene OS first chance I get, it should be this summer, damn the consequences.
I lived most of my life without any type of cell phone let alone a smart one. I'm going back to our roots, to reject this techno fascist bullshit it's only downhill from here on their gear.
kevinsky
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in reply to eldavi • • •They're working with Motorola.
motorolanews.com/motorola-thre…
Motorola News | Motorola's new partnership with GrapheneOS
marreroc (Motorola's Official Global Blog)eldavi
in reply to klep • • •oic, i was already aware of motorola's partnership; i thought you meant that graphene was going to make their own phone.
thanks anyways, though; it's nice when people respond in good faith.
farfalla
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in reply to farfalla • • •Don't see that happening.
teyrnon
in reply to eldavi • • •In at least some sectors, even this enshitified EU should be forced to stop Google from being anti-competitive towards graphene to some extent.
The US is fucked but I don't know about the rest of the world necessarily, kind of a free-for-all right now.
eldavi
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in reply to melsaskca • • •thermal_shock
in reply to melsaskca • • •In china it's the norm. And I was feeling the same way, until I realized china takes way better care of its citizens vs USA. Everything is convenient, healthcare, etc.
youtu.be/nRW_wh5mIek
This YouTuber goes into pretty good daily life of avg Chinese users.
- YouTube
youtu.beScoffingLizard
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in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •I don't know the answer to that, I've only been to Beijing.
But overall, id argue with healthcare, public transit, building a new hospital when covid hit specifically for it, it seems like they're doing better than nickel and diming them to death like USA. It costs money to breath here. Their EV setup is off the charts too. Even Ford CEO complimented it and drives a Chinese EV.
businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-j…
Chinese new chargers - youtube.com/shorts/KhoRJQUA6dA
youtu.be/TKMWZ5c1PMQ
Ford CEO said there's a reason he chose to drive Xiaomi and not Tesla
Aditi Bharade (Business Insider)Landless2029
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •I know a few people that live in rural USA and tap the ground for free water. Waste water from shower goes on random land and brown water into septic and get emptied when full.
Super cheap compared to my city water.
On the flip side they have complete shit internet access while I got fiber.
They have to drive a ways (1 hr) for groceries and I got like 5 within 10in drive. Hell I could walk 20min to a convenience store or two.
gnuthing [they/them]
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in reply to melsaskca • • •Not even way down, actually provided. You dont pay for wheelchair accessibility or braille on the signs.
I mean we all pay for it with taxes and increased prices, but the wheelchair user isnt forking out personally.
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •Yes, I "like" the surprises scanning a unknown QR code.
I hate this crap, same as this short URLs, it's not different from clicking on shady ad banners. A trustworth website don't need this shit, hiding its domain.
expandurl.net/
The QR code point to recaptcha.net/qr/mMs9S9g8
Expand & Check Shortened URLs
www.expandurl.netdev_null
in reply to Zerush • • •NannerBanner
in reply to dev_null • • •dev_null
in reply to NannerBanner • • •I don't understand, why is a QR code a dark pattern?
Edit: I have now read the entire Wikipedia page on dark patterns, I didn't find one that would match.
NannerBanner
in reply to dev_null • • •dev_null
in reply to NannerBanner • • •We start here:
You see an URL -> if it's a shortened URL, that's problematic, if it's a normal URL, it's ok you can click it
Now we add a QR code to the equation:
You scan a QR code -> You see an URL -> if it's a shortened URL, that's problematic, if it's a normal URL, it's ok you can click it
But you don't agree.
Why is adding the "You scan a QR code" step making a difference? You compare looking at an URL to reading a 40 page EULA, I don't think 1 line of text is comparable to 40 pages of text, but let's go with it. Some people won't read it, I definitely agree with that. If they click links without reading then, then they click links without reading them. Again, why is adding the step of scanning a QR code before the link shows up, making anything different? You can read and choose to click it or not all the same, whether the link appeared due to scanning a QR code, or whether it was on web page.
Bronstein_Tardigrade
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