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Dumbest excuses/stuff your family/other people told you about Privacy on the internet and degoogle?


My mom claims there is no problems into being tracked and stuff and that "Every normal person will use gmail";

My brother says you only should hide your data if you are a criminal or something.

in reply to Meow-Misfit

A (otherwise educated and pretty smart) friend once said to me that she is okay with Google knowing everything since she expects that everybody can profit from the generated knowledge.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

that advertisement becomes more relevant and they don't need to search for things they may like

🤷

in reply to Meow-Misfit

“They already have my information anyway.”

“Oh, what are they gonna do with my info? Who cares that I searched for X and Y? LOL.”


Me, a software engineer working for a major cSaaS provider that partners with other companies that specialise in Mobile Real User Monitoring, Open Telemetry, Bluetooth beacons, etc.: “Eh, no idea what they do with that info. Now let me just ignore all these non-anonymized analytics, spans, traces, and metrics that these companies capture about your devices and the health of their applications and infrastructure.”

I stopped bringing these things up years ago. Can’t explain this to persons who don’t care or are not remotely close to being tech savvy. Let them be content and enjoy the things they enjoy.

in reply to CatZoomies

No 1 answer for sure....

“They already have my information anyway.”

in reply to Lor

But how to argue against? I once said, in Europe you have the right to get all the information deleted. Guess why they established this law?
in reply to Lor

No it isn't. And it is a fairly new concept. And privacy from what there is really no way to be totally private unless you move to the woods and never interact with anyone else. I've heard people complain about their neighbours know what they are doing on here and there is no way to prevent that kind of stuff if your interacting with other people even in person.
in reply to Auli

I am talking about GOVERNMENT not nosy-assed neighbors.... SMDH.
in reply to Lor

The government isnt whats being talked about in here. Its corporations. Ie nosy neighbors that offer services. SMDH
in reply to Zexks

In capitalist countries, the government and corporations are two sides of the same coin.
in reply to Samsy

That information becomes less value the older it is. If you go dark all of a sudden tomorrow, that information will be worth a small fraction in a year. And there's the old saying: "The best time to plant a tree is 30 years ago. The second best time is now."
in reply to mnemonicmonkeys

Then why do they keep it? The collect so much data and keep it all. Then when there is a leak it's worse cause they have so much "useless" data.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

They give us service for free, they should use our data as they like.
A friend told me
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in reply to claim_arguably

It's true though. The web was built on ads because no one wants to pay for stuff. It also would not have gotten to where it is if it was pay. Would it have been better though we we'll never know.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

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in reply to HiddenLayer555

"selfish"? Wow. Reminds me of the time my brother just invented I deserve to be doxxed for uninstalling google and youtube from my phone.
in reply to HiddenLayer555

One day you’ll realize that being there when your friends post about their life events is more important.


Lmao. Being there for their posts??? This is delusional and sad.

in reply to Meow-Misfit

I gave up, the issue is much bigger than just privacy. Most people have no problem with having their life controlled by external circumstances and being exploited. They say that's how life is. They don't save money, but spend it all. They don't start a company, but just get hired. They don't protect their data, but give it away for free. They don't eat healthy, but prefer to enjoy their sugar and fast food. They don't work out, but just watch TV, consuming ads. Most people are unreasonable beyond help.

My advice is, just do your thing and let the results speak for themselves.

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in reply to gtr

Your not giving it away for free though. They are exchanging it for services. You might not see value in the services but I guess some people do.
in reply to gtr

I'm with you here. I stopped pushing people into caring, just secured my own home and family, and bring up the subject in my circle only when someone mentions that someone was 'hacked' or something along those lines.
in reply to gtr

Starting a company isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Entrepreneur hustle culture is a neoliberal trap I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I never worked harder for less money, or felt surrounded by the most disingenuous people I’ve ever met than when I worked for myself. I’ll just keep collecting a paycheck and actually enjoy my life while not “on the clock”.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

I wish some people would just come up with an excuse! They (pretend to listen), nod, and then... nothing. Or sometimes just repeat their previous argument.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

Something I want to try replying to the nothing to hide crowd:

Why do you close the door to your home then? What criminal activity are you hiding?
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in reply to grandel

Go one step further and ask why they're wearing clothes. What are they hiding in their pants they're so ashamed of?
in reply to grandel

Ask them to hand over their unlocked phone so you can read their messaged.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

"Ultimately, arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say"
in reply to Meow-Misfit

Don't try self hosting. Its too difficult and insecure. Blah blah.
in reply to altphoto

To be fair, self-hosting is more difficult and less secure.

The thing is though, many like to put in an effort and no one cares to hack your server, unlike something like Google.

in reply to Allero

It is more difficult, but it is not inherently less secure if you put in the time and effort to learn what's what and how to properly secure it.
in reply to youmaynotknow

Fair, but it takes much more than the average home selfhoster's level of competence.
in reply to Allero

Agreed. It's a commitment for sure, and most people are not willing to, or just can't.
in reply to Meow-Misfit

Linux Torvalds recently said he doesn't try to worryabout privacy just tries to be as boring as possible (on ltt) and I thought that's pretty harmful advice.
in reply to sem

I try to be spicy and waste surveillance money. I actually got an email from NZ Security Intelligence Service one time but they emailed me from a mail.com domain. They said they were writing to me "human to human" and asked me if I was "planning anything rash". This was in response to some edgy posts that I made online. I deliberately act mental to tie up government resources lol. I make a huge trail and when they get a surveillance warrant on me I start going to Google or bing and I ask questions like "was 9/11 an inside job" so that Security intelligence Service sees it. I also blame the government for supporting the wholesale slaughter of people in Afghanistan to make them feel guilty.