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Cheaper options than Graphene?


Update:
I wanna thank everyone for the advice, I'm shipping the bunk phone back for refund today and ive got my eye on a few from swappa and back market for when I get the money to buy.

I'll probably try out graphene but after looking into crdroid I'm pretty stoked about it having all the customization I've been wanting for ages. Which ever feels cleaner to manage and easier for the family to pick up will probably be the go to.

So I fell for the classic blunder and ended up with a pixel that's not OEM unlocked despite being advertised as such. After a few hours of searching it looks like the only way I'm getting an OEM unlocked pixel is full price from Google itself. I don't have $400 for a new phone, I bought the one I have for $150 in 2019.

Are there any cheaper ways to get control of my phone?

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in reply to heiligerbimbam

That's what I bought, pixel 7, $150 on amazon but not OEM unlocked. After doing a deep dive on it I've found that the only seller on amazon, eBay, and aliexpress that sells one guarantee OEM unlocked is out of stock with no estimated restock. Only other option similar is a refurbished 7a from Google at $350
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

Return Pixel 7 to Amazon and start looking for used Pixels on Craigslist or FB Marketplace
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

USA only, but Swappa is often recommend online. I see a few here listed as unlocked

swappa.com/listings/google-pix…

in reply to SatyrSack

I'm looking through swappa and it looks like the unlocked tag is for carriers, how to I verify it's not going to be a repeat of my current situation?
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

The international model is GVU6C, which I believe is the model that is sold directly by Google, which is always unlockable. There are several of those on Swappa.

phonemore.com/models/google/pi…

in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I've found many unlocked, used Pixel phones on eBay. I've bought 5 of them this way for myself and my family and had no problems.
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in reply to floofloof

You mind sending me a link? I could only find 1 eBay seller that stated it was OEM unlocked and they were out of stock.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=unloc…
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I can't vouch for any particular seller I'm afraid. I used various sellers and I guess I have just been lucky so far.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I bought a refurbished pixel 6a for 200€ from a local store with 2 years guarantee. Using it since 3-4 years and am happy.

Maybe think about a used/refurbished one?

in reply to SomeLemmyUser

That's what I bought and what I'm looking for, but no one has them with OEM unlocked. The only option I could find that guarantees that is a refurbished pixel 7a from Google for $350
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

Are you in the EU?
Because at my City the first used stuff store i went to had it. But maybe thats different in different markets.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

:/
HM that sucks. You could go with a phone with lineage OS support, not as secure but at least without bloatware from what I understand.

Or save and try to snipe a good deal on some marketplace

in reply to SomeLemmyUser

I wish I had the time, but after nearly 8 years my charging port is finally giving up. It doesn't do data transfer anymore and I don't know how many more times I can plug it in before it stops charging all together.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

Have you tried to Clean it with a needle?
Often its just stuff getting Into the port so the cable doesn't fit anymore all the way
in reply to SomeLemmyUser

Oh regularly. I've been keeping this guy alive for years. The issue looks to be that the port itself is beginning to seperate and the blu g91s isn't all that repairable.

I've been carrying it around long enough that the whole phone has a ~3° warp to it from my jeans holding it too tightly to my thigh. If you sit it glass down on a flat surface it wobbles like a bad table.

in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I will bet a lot of the listings you are looking at really are OEM unlocked, they are just not clear about it. I bought a refurbished pixel 7 pro on Amazon in 2023 for $234. The listing just says "service provider: unlocked". I installed graphene on it.

That said, I see a subsequent review on this listing commissioning that the received phone was not carrier unlocked, so I guess you have to be prepared for some trial and error and returns.

I would broaden your eBay search to just "unlocked" and then maybe message sellers to verify the kind of unlocked state.

Possibly something here is useful: discuss.grapheneos.org/d/13146…

in reply to Postmortal_Pop

You can buy them from Best Buy? Scamazon? Walmart?
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in reply to Postmortal_Pop

Not unlockable means you can never have complete control of that device unfortunately.

You could return the phone to whomever lied about it being oem unlocked. Pixel 6 used is around $150, 7 go for about $220. Use a service like swappa so you have some assurance you will get what you pay for this time.

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in reply to Postmortal_Pop

for some older pixel (pixel 2) there was some sketchy chinese dude that remotely bootloader unlocks the device for USD$30, tho i haven't tried that myself. most likely using some leaked engineering bootloader binary.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

Buy some old chinashit and flash lineage/cr droid, they actually give you more control than graphene
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in reply to Ignoranceisnotabliss

This is actually the best option I've gotten so far, crdroid looks good. Is there anywhere I can find a video that explains the daily use side of it?
in reply to BigBolillo

That's basically LineageOS with some pre-configuration for microg
in reply to exu

Not exactly it has some interesting customizations like tracker blocking, geo mock and tor included by default. Is a privacy oriented ROM. Not as private as graphene but I believe it's a good alternative for non-pixel, another one is iodeOS.
in reply to Ignoranceisnotabliss

What about Lineage gives you more control than GOS? I personally have never tried LineageOS since I have a pixel, but curious what it's like over there.
in reply to Lytia

Graphene is designed to restrict a lot of choices (and root access) to be secure by default, Lineage is designed to give you root control over everything. Very different approaches.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I paid ~$180 for my used mint-condition Pixel 6 on Swappa. You have to look up which exact model numbers are bootloader unlockable, then filter on those.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

You can find services online that people will unlock your phone for you for a fee
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

As long as it isn't "carrier locked", you should be good to go. The thing about Pixels, is that they allow you to unlock the bootloader (and critically, for Graphene, relock it).
in reply to electric_nan

You'd think so, but apparently the Verizon model will allow you to unlock the carrier but you can never unlock the bootloader.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

lineageos is a good alternative. but if it's not oem unlockable, you are out of luck with roms.
in reply to ☂️-

I'm already returning this one, l was just hoping to find something I could set up that wouldn't cost most of a check to get my hands on
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

almost any phone that can have its bootloader unlocked has lineage available. to make sure it's well supported, try to find one from their officially supported list.

a lot of cheap motorolas or xiaomis in there.

or an older pixel, might be cheaper and still supported by graphene.

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in reply to Postmortal_Pop

The least demanding and least good option is probably universal android debloater, which helps you remove and disable packaged using adb. That's a bit of control on a device with a locked bootloader.
in reply to Auli

Iirc Verizon doesnt sell Pixels that can unlock the bootloader.
in reply to Auli

Other guy beat me to it, but Verizon has the bootloader so secured no one even bothers trying.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

There's nothing anywhere close to the security and privacy Graphene provides. Find something like a used 8a somewhere. Check Backmarket, Swappa too not just Amazon and ebay.
in reply to Octagon9561

I ended up finding one on backmarket, should be here soon. Hadn't heard of them or swappa before this thread.

I'm not too invested in the security side of things, it's just the nice fat cherry on being able to genuinely own my next phone.

in reply to Octagon9561

Pixel 7. That was my original goal as it's the newest that I can afford.
in reply to Postmortal_Pop

I would have personally opted for an 8a since the 7 will loose support in Oct 2027 while the 8a will keep being supported until May 2031. (In addition to supporting MTE which improves security even more) I haven't checked their prices on the used market but I don't think they should be that different.