Which company has a better reputation Lenovo or ASUS?
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39088745
Lenovo or ASUS? Trying to figure out which laptop to go with.Which company has a better reputation (in quality, privacy...), or are they both bad?
EDIT:
I have come to the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
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CocaineShrimp
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Holeheadou92984
in reply to CocaineShrimp • • •thanks!
CerebralHawks
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •I like Asus. They’re older than people think. They used to be Pegasus but they sucked then. So they rebranded. I’ve had nothing but good luck from a laptop they made plus a bunch of parts I built PCs with.
Lenovo is Chinese and they bought Motorola and part of IBM I think? So they have some good stuff. But I’m more familiar with Asus and I like what they’ve made.
Holeheadou92984
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in reply to brokenwing • • •monis
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Probably lenovo.
Asus' products are overpriced because a lot of times you end up paying extra for cringe aesthetic.
Holeheadou92984
in reply to monis • • •MadMadBunny
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •MachineFab812
in reply to MadMadBunny • • •MadMadBunny
in reply to MachineFab812 • • •IBM had their ThinkPad laptops line until 2005. They sold it off, the entire PC business, which was a part of IBM, to Lenovo, a Chinese company. Lenovo bought the laptop designs, the tech, all, except the IBM name, obviously.
I never mentioned anything about employees, but if you know anything about how manufacturing companies with production lines work, well, then you’ll know how all assets, including employees with their know-how and experience, are transferred to the new company when sold. Whether they remain with time is another matter.
I do know what I am talking about.
You can read more about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad
business computers and tablets series by Lenovo
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)MachineFab812
in reply to MadMadBunny • • •MadMadBunny
in reply to MachineFab812 • • •What are you even arguing about!?
You know what nevermind…
monovergent
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Lenovo's ThinkPad line has a sterling reputation. Among the best in terms of quality, service, repairability, and Linux support.
As for the largely consumer-grade options of ASUS and Lenovo's consumer-grade IdeaPads, they're rather similar in reputation and quality. Not exceptional, but they're both perfectly fine options as long as you avoid the budget laptop segment (plastic chassis, broken hinges, etc.)
Any difference in privacy would come down to the pre-installed software, which is irrelevant if you plan on using Linux. If you will be using Windows, it's always better to install your own fresh copy to purge any potential spyware and bloatware installed by the manufacturer. The activation key for whichever edition of Windows it comes with is embedded in the BIOS, so it'll activate automatically after a fresh reinstall.
Holeheadou92984
in reply to monovergent • • •@Lyubo@lemmy.ml
Don't know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework
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in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Lyubo
in reply to monovergent • • •In my opinion the newer modes are using the lagacy of the old ThinkPads without being anything like the old ThinkPads except maybe for good Linux support but I'm not sure for the newest models.
AnarchoEngineer
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •If you go with Lenovo make sure to get one with a real barrel power jack not just a USB-C. Several models with only USBC are plagued by multiple problems from possibly frying the board to mosfets literally coming unsoldered.
I bought one with those issues. It’s still a great laptop, but it stopped charging till I took it apart and did a hack soldering job shorting the mosfets lol
Holeheadou92984
in reply to AnarchoEngineer • • •carzian
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Framework if you have the money. Otherwise Dell.
Every single lenovo product that isn't a thinkpad is a nightmare to repair. Their keyboards are plastic rivited in place, so you have to swap out the entire top half of the chassis to replace the keyboard. I've had unending issues with their ideapad line motherboards. That laptop went through two replacement motherboards and was out of commission for months. The build quality of their all-in-one is terrible and you have to do a complete disassembly to add ram. I say this as someone who had to do small business IT. I have fixed 4 separate models from them and each one had terrible build quality.
Also, dont forget about the superfish scandal.
Asus is fine. I and several friends have had many of their laptops. Though one of my friends had the motherboard on his TUF line completely died out of no where.
Dell's build quality and repairablitity remains solid. Easy to source replacement parts. Good Linux support. I've had the fewest problems with their hardware
Also checkout framework if you have the money. Good
... Show more...Framework if you have the money. Otherwise Dell.
Every single lenovo product that isn't a thinkpad is a nightmare to repair. Their keyboards are plastic rivited in place, so you have to swap out the entire top half of the chassis to replace the keyboard. I've had unending issues with their ideapad line motherboards. That laptop went through two replacement motherboards and was out of commission for months. The build quality of their all-in-one is terrible and you have to do a complete disassembly to add ram. I say this as someone who had to do small business IT. I have fixed 4 separate models from them and each one had terrible build quality.
Also, dont forget about the superfish scandal.
Asus is fine. I and several friends have had many of their laptops. Though one of my friends had the motherboard on his TUF line completely died out of no where.
Dell's build quality and repairablitity remains solid. Easy to source replacement parts. Good Linux support. I've had the fewest problems with their hardware
Also checkout framework if you have the money. Good stuff from them. Really how laptops should be. Each part has it's own qr code so you can immediately identify it and get a replacement if needed. It's amazing.
iturnedintoanewt
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Don't know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework
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in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Holeheadou92984
in reply to Twongo [she/her] • • •@Lyubo@lemmy.ml
Don't know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework
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youtu.beTwongo [she/her]
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •and i doubt you made an uninformed decision :)
my advice would've been a 10yr old thinkpad with coreboot - which won't work for everyone
Lfrith
in reply to Twongo [she/her] • • •PrivateNoob
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Idunno, but in terms of Lenovo just stay with the thinkpads.
I know it's an anecdotal evidence, but my friend bought a Lenovo Ideapad (or some other non-thinkpad), where the motherboard just died (he couldn't boot at all) so it was replaced under warranty. Just before the end of warranty, the same issue arisen so it was replaced again, and I kid you not this new motherboard died AGAIN.
Holeheadou92984
in reply to PrivateNoob • • •@Lyubo@lemmy.ml
Don't know if this is true, but I have decided to go with framework
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in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •I think Lenovo has the worst with their spyware and adware built into their BIOS.
Video from Louis Rossmann
I have very bad experience with Lenovo's business laptops hardware and software but Asus laptops aren't very different either. Asus' quality control seems to be garbage and their customer service even more garbage. Choose your enemy.
Or go with Framework if possible. ⚙️✨
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in reply to Lyubo • • •Telex
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Framework supporting far-right racists?
Framework CommunityHoleheadou92984
in reply to Telex • • •Holeheadou92984
in reply to Telex • • •I guess don't buy a laptop then 🥲
This doesn't seem like a deal breaker though, they are simply supporting another open source project they want to use, that's all I'm reading from the post.
Telex
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Up to each one to decide, really. Fw had really interesting products and seem to treat Linux as a first class citizen.
The CEOs non-answer and amazingly loud continuing support to a pointless script by a known problem developer is weird and unfortunate. Monetarily small, but visually loud, as these things tend to be.
naitro
in reply to Lyubo • • •Mangoholic
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •SchwertImStein
in reply to Mangoholic • • •WbrJr
in reply to Mangoholic • • •I could just find the xiaomi book 14, which has a 12the gen i5. Not too impressive, depending on waht you want to do
Mangoholic
in reply to WbrJr • • •I have the mi notebook pro 2 2023. It had dedicated graphics. If you need graphics power they might be the wrong choice.
CrypticCoffee
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Holeheadou92984
in reply to CrypticCoffee • • •Thanks, but I have come to the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
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moonpiedumplings
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in reply to moonpiedumplings • • •madcaesar
in reply to Holeheadou92984 • • •Never be loyal to companies. Ever.
That said, I've usually had good experience with Asus motherboards and the routers have served me well as well. Being able to throw merlin on them was very important to me.
Holeheadou92984
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