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Folks, this is Luigi Mangione’s manifesto that the mainstream media don’t want people to read, so please don’t distribute it, m’kay?

kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-m…

#LuigiMangione #manifesto #LuigiMangioneManifesto #UnitedHealthcare #UnitedHealthcareCEO #UnitedHealthGroup #capitalism #systemicViolence #censorship #corporateMedia

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in reply to Aral Balkan

Wished he would've picked a different way to get his message across. But across he sure did get it didn't he?

Ruined his freaking life though. That makes me sad.

Brother

in reply to Aral Balkan

Mr. Mangione definitely has a point. I don't advocate violence. But neither do I advocate for-profit health care. They both result in death and grief, so in that way murder and for-profit health care are not dissimilar.
in reply to Aral Balkan

I do not plan to distribute this manifesto of basic moral principles.
in reply to Aral Balkan

I was unclear who this sentence refers to, "many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore)"

It appears this refers to:

* Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal, a medical journalist who formerly worked as a medical doctor. (Wrote the 2017 book, "An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take It Back")

* American film director, Michael Moore (made the documentary "Sicko" which is available for streaming)

One ref: npr.org/sections/health-shots/…

in reply to Aral Balkan

I don't know why people keep calling this a Manifesto. It's a suicide note (death by cop).
in reply to Aral Balkan

"I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done." Jeepers. Taking a man's life…
in reply to Petrichor ᚄᚔᚅᚐᚁᚆᚃᚒᚔᚂ

@sinabhfuil Healthcare CEOs kill and cause suffering with no regrets at all. It had to be done for shareholder profit and the CEO's bonus check. The government won't help people suffering, politicians are rich people protecting profit, the corporations are corrupt and cruel, what other recourse do people suffering have? Suicide? Do you have any idea of just how cruel this all is? And how many people this CEO is responsible for murdering while hiding behind technology and wealth to absolve himself of responsibility. At least Luigi wasn't murdering for profit. @aral
in reply to Fifi Lamoura

@fifilamoura @sinabhfuil

“what other recourse do people suffering have? Suicide?”

I think people would be surprised at how many people that actually is the answer for: either directly, through MAID if available, or by simply not pursuing treatments that would bankrupt their loved ones.

#DeathWithDignity requires #LifeWithDignity

in reply to David Mitchell :CApride:

@DavidM_yeg @fifilamoura @sinabhfuil
I really think people would be surprised at how many people are complicit in the delivery of the service of early termination of care for patients who are either having difficulty paying for care or are difficult to care for at any stage in their lives or who are deemed a drain on the system of profit above all.

Suicide is not a decision that is required anymore.

in reply to FirstFish

@FirstFish The death panels that right wingers used to scare people away from universal healthcare are now guided purely by financial incentives. And use "AI" so the people implementing them can pretend they aren't responsible. @DavidM_yeg @aral @sinabhfuil
in reply to Fifi Lamoura

@fifilamoura @DavidM_yeg @sinabhfuil
If we keep this to the topic of the manifesto. The idea of life expectancy is breached. And the reason for the US statistic in that category is not in the 'death panels' or AI programming. It is in the systemic orientation of profits at the expense of life of the entire health industry - from the top to the bottom - from the CEOs to the nurses on the floors. Do not exclude anyone in your considerations of this issue. The callous way we treat our neighbors and our aging and our disabled and our suddenly traumatized populations is telling. Follow the money.
in reply to FirstFish

@fifilamoura @DavidM_yeg @sinabhfuil
Or is this piece of paper a plant. Do we have other things Luigi has written that we can forensically compare this to? Things we can use to prove beyond doubt that this is his writing?
I am cynic enough, I guess. And I have buried too many friends.
in reply to FirstFish

@FirstFish @fifilamoura @DavidM_yeg The solution is not to kill one person (who will be quickly replaced), but to instal a just, kind and merciful heath system that doesn't involve insurance, imho
in reply to Aral Balkan

the whole “right vs left wing” political swirl around this feels an awful lot like we’re forgetting this bit:

gluecode.net/images/RightEnemy…

in reply to Aral Balkan

So like, I get why he did it. I get the anger. But there's a lot about this 1%'er that rankles me now that he finally saw the light. A big problem I have seems to be him acting like killing this guy was something he and no one else had the courage to do ever.

Except we know what happens when you directly kill oppressors and evil people. We've seen it through history. The reason it's not a strategy commonly used is because it doesn't really remove any power or make any change. They're gonna vanish this guy. And UnitedHealthcare will have a new CEO, and people will forget him in a year. Meanwhile, anyone who walks close to a CEO from now on is gonna get iced by his security teams. And they'll get away with it. The Pinkertons will go proactive.

Conflicted emotions. I've been in this fight against the 1% for a long time, and a rich white 1% kid snapping and acting like we've all got it wrong is just..Let the rich white people tell us how to protest right.

in reply to Aral Balkan

This guy's defo not -all- there (praises Bernie Sanders, then praises white supremacist Tucker Carlson), BUT...but... I hope this really encourages people to unify and focus on #classstruggle against neolibs and billionaires, instead of divide and conquer.

#ClassWar :anarchoheart1:

(I'm still not shedding any fucking tears for a remote-murderer CEO!)

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in reply to Aral Balkan

I wish he would have included a more personal element. I’ve read (not sure of the authenticity) that his mother was not properly treated medically and that he could hear her shrieking in pain, and that he had sustained a horribly painful back injury himself.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Thank you for your post.
You have my trump promise not to distribute it.

Peace

in reply to Aral Balkan

This puts a point to the "life is sacred" bullshit.
This puts a point on the "you can't put a price on human life" bullshit.
our society puts a price on human life every single day. not just in healthcare, but in almost everything. It's also not necessarily bad either. We could spend a million dollars on something that saves a single life. or we could spend that million on something that would save hundreds.
in reply to Aral Balkan

What a surprising amount of status-quo-apologia in the replies. 🥲
in reply to Aral Balkan

Ted Kaczynski had a more interesting manifesto. web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/cl… See starting at section 172. Murder is still a morally unacceptable way to implement societal change.
in reply to Aral Balkan

I like that he kept it succinct and focussed on one issue.
Also, I'm sure he's on the same page as me in that we need radical systemic change, but he knows that many American people, irrespective of the political leanings, have had negative experiences of US healthcare and it's a pretty good rallying point to perhaps build something bigger upon
in reply to Aral Balkan

Not a comfortable read. But having the highest health insurance costs in the world paired with one of the lowest live expectancies in the developed world sounds like the type of argument that eventually buried big tobacco.
in reply to Aral Balkan

💠 as always, worth clarifying that to the public knowledge this is the manifesto attributed to mangione, by the police.
in reply to Aral Balkan

"A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy."

@aral

in reply to Aral Balkan

Wouldn't think of it! Oops! I accidentally hit the boost button looking for the stern admonishment button.
in reply to Aral Balkan

"Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty." Well, that dude knows how to close an essay.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Makes sense that the mainstream media doesn't want to publish it. It's so straightforward to the point and easy to verify that it leaves no room for alternative representations.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Why would the media spread a killer's manifesto? On the contrary (and more civilized countries already do this), the name of the murderer is not mentioned, he is convicted and thrown in jail to be forgotten. Otherwise, a cult will grow up around him, like the one around Breivik. Anyone remember the mosque killer from NZ? Hardly anyone. Let's keep it the same with this one.
in reply to Michal Špondr

@michal You’re right, they really shouldn’t spread a killer’s manifesto like this:

foxbusiness.com/business-leade…

in reply to Aral Balkan

Saying "I don't want Trump for president" does not mean "Somebody kill Trump". Same with those insurance companies. They want to optimize profits, but not purposely kill people like the killer did.