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Despite rumours that ReformUK might be willing to enter some sort of electoral pact with the Tories ahead of the next election, Nigel Farage rejected this idea, suggesting that only a 'reverse tax-over' of the Tories is of any interest to him.

Normally I wouldn't comment on Fararge's fantasy politics, but in this case it perhaps confirms what many suspect; that a badly weakened Tory party may be prey to a stronger populist right challenger.

Time & events will tell.

#politics #ReformUK
h/t FT

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FediThing
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If the UK right wing parties form an alliance of some kind and the left wing parties don't, then the right wing will have a very very easy time winning the next election.

The UK's electoral system rewards electoral alliances and severely punishes split votes. UK might end up with an extremely right wing parliament if the left wing doesn't form some kind of electoral pact. The left might get lots of votes but few MPs.

The question needs to be asked: is the UK left wing more comfortable with a far right party taking power than with forming a left wing alliance? If yes, then how left wing are they, really?

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Geoff Berner
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@FediThing the battle lines of left vs. right run through the UK Labour party. There's no point in making a deal with Starmer, Streeting or Burnham. They're addicted to betrayal and genocide. But if the Greens and Your Party decided not to run against each other in most ridings, and not to run a candidate in the ridings of Labour's leftiest 50, that would lead to the best possible outcome for the left.
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FediThing
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There are terrible options either way, is a far right government really the least terrible option?

Farage wants to dismantle the NHS for example.

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FediThing
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@Geoffberner
Are you saying the party that was previously led for five years by Jeremy Corbyn is now a far right party that is just as bad as Reform?

Starmer isn't the one elected, Labour is. Starmer's MPs would get rid of him if he tried to shut down the NHS or if he even suggested the idea.

Farage's MPs would not get rid of him if he tried to shut down the NHS, and he openly says he would do this.

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Geoff Berner
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@FediThing Starmer is right now slowly killing the NHS. And lying about it. The party Jeremy Corbyn led for 5 years is gone. It's over. It's not coming back. Socialist Labour MP's should apply to the Greens and Your Party to run unopposed by the new red/green alliance. But most Labour MP's should not expect to have their careers saved if they're only just now figuring out that supporting Starmer was political suicide, both for them and their outmoded, hugely unpopular, formerly left wing party.
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FediThing
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"But most Labour MP's should not expect to have their careers saved "

It's not about the MPs or their parties, it's about public services that literally keep people alive.

Most people don't give a shit about politicians and would be happy to see them all disappear, but they do care about whether they have to pay for their operations or not.

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Geoff Berner
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@FediThing you're trying to save something (Labour) that died already. It's gone. Starmer and most of his cabinet will lose their seats in the next election. If you want to save the NHS, then you need to make your plans in light of that reality.
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FediThing
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No, I don't give a flying fuck about Labour.

All I want to do is stop an actual far right party taking over yet another country.

I don't care about politicians, I DO care about the effect of politics on ordinary people. That's supposed to be the main focus of elections, but unfortunately the media focuses instead entirely on politicians and treats it as a form of sport.

If there is a right wing alliance led by the far right, the reality will be that they will win unless there's a left wing alliance.

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Geoff Berner
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@FediThing I got ya. I'm just saying that it will be up to the Greens and Your Party, which Labour MP's they will support. Labour's leadership will have no role in these negotiations. Polanski has spelled out why: because they are not trustworthy, and they are genocidaires.
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Steve's Place
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@FediThing Gosh. We have the same problem: the rich, who bought our politicians and yours, too.
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M.S. Bellows, Jr.
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@FediThing Yup. c.im/@msbellows/11321175921725…

M.S. Bellows, Jr. (@msbellows@c.im)

Hey, you know those folks who periodically pop up claiming both parties are equally bad and even if voting third party helps Trump win it would just hasten the necessary collapse of neoliberalism? I have a new answer for them.
M.S. Bellows, Jr. (C.IM)
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ABOLISH PRIVATE HEALTHCARE!âš«
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@FediThing I'm LD and I believe we should be working with the Greens in order to stop the far-right.
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