Installed #GrapheneOS several days ago on my Pixel 8. It works great without any Google services!
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asudox
in reply to badwetter • • •goog70
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in reply to goog70 • • •TWeaK
in reply to badwetter • • •Any ROM works great without Google Play Services. If anything, having MicroG installed makes things work less - I have a banking app that works fine on my old phone, without Google, but won't work on my new phone because of a CPS Profile mismatch.
MicroG is a house of cards that is very difficult to get stacked correctly. Most apps work fine without it. For those that don't, use something else, or just a web browser. Hell, you probably shouldn't be using so many apps anyway, given that you really can't be certain what they do when they're closed source.
shortwavesurfer
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in reply to badwetter • • •Biskii
in reply to toastal • • •You know, this comment just made me realize my phone didn't have one. I guess when wireless ear buds are the same price as wired these days, you don't even really notice
What is even better than that, is that if you really need or want a headphone jack, you can get a phone that has one. You don't even have to try to bring other people down to do it
SanctimoniousApe
in reply to Biskii • • •There are exceedingly few phones that have them anymore - particularly more powerful ones. I prefer a headphone jack because I don't have to juggle keeping everything charged long enough for when I want to use it.
A prime example is when I go to sleep. I live on a somewhat busy street in an apartment facing said street. I have noisy neighbors. My spouse is used to sleeping with the TV on (there are reasons for this which I understand) - thankfully, the screen doesn't have to be on. As such, I use wired earbuds that block out most external sound, along with an audio track I've been using for many years on a loop to put (and keep) me to sleep. Show me any wireless earbuds that'll last the night, block out sound, and not be too big to lay upon comfortably since I'm a side-sleeper (let alone not have controls accidentally activated by laying on them).
ETA: Never mind that my Bluetooth earbuds always seem to develop a problem keeping contact with their charge contacts in the case before long, so it's not infrequent that I go to use them and they're dead when they shouldn't be.
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eBayBiskii
in reply to SanctimoniousApe • • •I'm not saying I love the fact that they are gone, but my main point was dude didn't have to be an ass about it. I know having to purchase extra accessories is much less than ideal, but power+3.5mm adapters are quite cheap, and shouldn't be a hassle to use in bed
Ideally, we have a headphone jack built in with out losing out on anything, but unfortunately that isn't where we are at. We have to find other solutions if you don't like the phones that still include them. Some people are fine with Bluetooth, some are OK with adapters, and some go out of their way to shit on OP for enjoying his new stuff
SanctimoniousApe
in reply to Biskii • • •Biskii
in reply to SanctimoniousApe • • •DynamoSunshirtSandals
in reply to SanctimoniousApe • • •Unreliable recharging is why I gave up on Bluetooth headphones, too! Had it happen with four separate pairs of AirPods in my house: OG AirPods, my warranty replacement, and my partner's AirPods Pro (and their warranty replacement). I find nothing more frustrating than heading out on a run in the morning and discovering that one or both of my buds has near-zero charge, after carefully placing them in a case the previous day.
I've been using a pair of Tin T2 Pro IEMs ever since. Almost 5 years with the same IEMs, I think I've gone through 4 cable replacements. But the replacement cables were like $5 and the latest $10 one seems likely to last much longer since it's a nice braided cable.
Of course, I'm stuck on my Pixel 4a to keep the headphone jack. But it works well enough that I honestly have no desire to upgrade. I just wish I could still get OS security updates.
EngineerGaming
in reply to toastal • • •bitwolf
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in reply to bitwolf • • •bitwolf
in reply to toastal • • •They asked about the Pixel, which doesn't have a jack, so it sounds worse than getting a dongle.
The Pixels with jacks thankfully were tested, to be "okay", the Apple dongle outperformed them.
The OC was half a joke half the truth.
I do miss the V10 but the same DAC can be bought and used with anything.
Biskii
in reply to badwetter • • •LiveLM
in reply to badwetter • • •shortwavesurfer
in reply to LiveLM • • •LiveLM
in reply to shortwavesurfer • • •Thanks for the answer!
The google location timeline convinced me to get my ass off of Google more than anything so not having it is a big plus
shortwavesurfer
in reply to LiveLM • • •wobfan
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in reply to wobfan • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to wobfan • • •That's weird. Everything that needs GPS location works great for me. I agree that it does take a bit longer to lock, but it's only about 1 or 2 seconds longer.
My OsmAnd~ works amazing.
wobfan
in reply to youmaynotknow • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to wobfan • • •I wish I could be more help, but its always worked for me since I started using GrapheneOS about 4 years ago.
The one thing I can think of is a misconfiguration on SUPL and PSDS.
If you still have access to a GrapheneOS device maybe you could take a look there.
sic_semper_tyrannis
in reply to wobfan • • •SnotBubble
in reply to badwetter • • •Welcome to the club!
There are many apps that rely on Google Play services for notifications. Did you enable that from the Graphene Apps or does Aurora provide a push service?
wobfan
in reply to SnotBubble • • •I wanna know that too! I actually found a lot of app notifications working, but some not and also some constantly told me "This app doesn't work without GPS" while running perfectly fine, apart from that message.
I did not install anything to replace GPS, so something must work out of the box there. Installed most of the app via Aurora Store from FDroid
youmaynotknow
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in reply to badwetter • • •CCMan1701A
in reply to badwetter • • •Maybe the switch for me would require staging on a burner pixel that supported. I have a lot of shopping apps, that I may not need, but need some time on the testing phone to make sure everything works before taking the deep dive.
This is also how I made the switch off windows. Stagged it on a space older laptop to see what's what.
I'll get there...