#UK question: what is the difference between Civil Marriage and Civil Partnership in the UK (more specifically #Scotland if it changes anything)? Why would you choose one over the other? Is it just that "civil marriage" is more likely to get recognised internationally?
I can't seem to find any clear info on this online..
Edit:
- this Reddit thread gives some info, but mostly unsourced. In this one someone summarised the England & Wales rules.
- this page from what seems to be a legal firm is quite useful and focuses on Scottish law.
Basically it seems that the few legal differences are inconsequential.
#CivilPartnership #CivilMarriage
Civil Partnership or Marriage – What are the legal differences? - Gillespie Macandrew
We have prepared a helpful factsheet on the legal differences between becoming marital spouses or civil partners.Lauren.Forgie@gillespiemacandrew.co.uk (Gillespie Macandrew)
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greem (Graeme, not Graham)
in reply to El Duvelle • • •Long and a bit dry, but...
gov.uk/government/publications…
The principal difference is to do with pensions, in the end.
Marriage and civil partnership in England and Wales (accessible version)
Government Equalities Office (GOV.UK)El Duvelle
in reply to greem (Graeme, not Graham) • • •thanks! I saw this before and it's so tedious to read that I gave up. Why didn't they just make a table of the actual differences instead of separately stating what each category does? 🤦
Anyway, if I try to summarise, for the pension, in the case of reaching pension age after 6 April 2016, the only difference seems to be for:
This text is not there in the other categories (same-sex marriage, opposite-sex civil partnership, same-sex civil partnership). I don't know what it means practically, and I thought that state pension was so low anyway that you can't count on it for a proper pension...
Is that really the only difference?
PS: I also noticed that this is for England and Whales, while I'm mostly interested in Scotland, didn't expect it to mean different things between parts of the UK though..
greem (Graeme, not Graham)
in reply to El Duvelle • • •To be fair I don't really understand it either, and I've lived here my whole life!
The difference in laws (terminology, application and the making of them) is pretty complicated and down to the chequered history of the British Isles (geographic).
There's a UK Parliament that makes laws applying to the whole nation (That's England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland). The latter three have their own parliaments (in NI it's called the Assembly). They have certain devolved...
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greem (Graeme, not Graham)
in reply to greem (Graeme, not Graham) • • •...powers around education, transport, health, policing and so on but each one has different levels of devolution.
Scotland and NI have their own legal systems which differ from those in England and Wales.
In the devolved parliaments, members make decisions for their own nation. In the UK parliament, members make decisions for the UK as a whole where they're not devolved powers.
England itself does not have a separate parliament.
Confused yet?
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El Duvelle
in reply to greem (Graeme, not Graham) • • •(Thanks for trying to explain though. I think you did a great job!)
greem (Graeme, not Graham)
in reply to El Duvelle • • •It all basically boils down historically to those English people who had money, land, property, titles or some other form of privilege got bored of dominating their own underlings and decided to either fight everyone outside England or take over everything.
And we were really good at building ships, so once local control was complete, attempts to control the rest of the world followed.
I'll gloss over the European wars and royal marriages though 😉
Sally Lowell
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in reply to Sally Lowell • • •Sally Lowell
in reply to El Duvelle • • •El Duvelle
in reply to Sally Lowell • • •@CellySally I found this, from a Scottish law firm, that seems to summarise the differences: gillespiemacandrew.co.uk/news-…
Their conclusion is that:
Civil Partnership or Marriage – What are the legal differences? - Gillespie Macandrew
Lauren.Forgie@gillespiemacandrew.co.uk (Gillespie Macandrew)Dan Goodman
in reply to El Duvelle • • •El Duvelle
in reply to Dan Goodman • • •Tattie
in reply to El Duvelle • • •for anyone asking themself "but why?", you have to look into the
hysterical raisinshistorical reasons.Civil Partnerships were introduced in 2005 as a compromise, because there was still too much opposition to equal marriage to push the latter thru at that time, but we wanted something.
Equal marriage was finally pushed thru in 2014, and in the run-up to that the question was asked "should we just commute all existing Civil Partnerships to marriage for simplicity?" But not everyone with a CP wanted that, and it's very hard to morally and legally justify taking that institution away now that it exists. So it was retained.
IIRC, I believe in the end everyone with a CP got the option to commute it to a marriage at their discretion.
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