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Can someone explain to me like I’m five why the fuck Hungary is still in the EU?

in reply to Aral Balkan

…or at least all EU privileges suspended pending sensible team-playing.
in reply to Aral Balkan

while I understand & side with your position, throwing out a country is not possible b/c the EU contracts have no clause to throw out a country.

However: sanctions, penalties, freezing assets, suspending voting rights and excluding their voice are possible & imo much worse than complete exclusion/evacuation. Obstacle: such resolutions have to me unanimous.

in reply to Aral Balkan

Apart from that, which is something I wonder about myself....

But the main question is,how can Europe be democratic if the vote of a single country blocks everything? Shouldn't the absolute majority prevail over the vote of a single country?
How ever can that be democracy?

in reply to Aral Balkan

because the EU doesn't want them to become another Belarus, a part of the Russian empire, literally at the heart of Europe?
in reply to Aral Balkan

I believe it's because they get more economically out of EU than they have to put into it. It is my impression that this applies to quite a few eastern members.
in reply to Aral Balkan

Maybe Hungary is the pain in the arse which will persuade the other members of the EU to support a switch to a more majoritarian system of voting?
in reply to Aral Balkan

There is no mechanism for expulsion.

Even the suspension of membership rights according to article 7 #TEU has a huge road block in the middle of the process: the European Council, essentially the heads of state (or governments), must unanimously agree on proceeding to the last step, suspension.

In other words: it takes only a single other foul apple to prevent the suspension of rights, and #Slovakia is the other country on that tandem of foul apples.

#EUpol #Hungary

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in reply to Aral Balkan

#Hungary blocks #EU sanctions AND $106 billion loan for #Ukraine, risking a domino collapse

Put about right,

Showing solidarity with Ukraine by showing the flag colors does not change anything as long as Putin and trump friend Orban can get away with blocking a majority decision.

Somebody please give him a cup of tea, putin style.

AND, get back the 10 Million the commision transferred unlawfully, give that to UKR instead.

in reply to Aral Balkan

this is the classic totalitarian way of European thinking: disagreement=punishment.
in reply to Proletarian Rage

@prolrage Sorry, what is? Are you implying it’s totalitarian to eject fascists like Orban? I don’t view fascism as a matter of disagreement.
in reply to Aral Balkan

the fascist in here is the EU establishment itself, which put forward the Ukrainian government for prolonging a war that doesn't go anywhere, just for the sales of few industrialists from a certain country.
And just for the history, Europeans (or their agents) already sabotaged Slovakia and Hungary in a terrorist way. I'm not able to imagine what are their willing to do in the future. Maybe what they do in Palestine.
in reply to Aral Balkan

yeah no... at this point qualified majority voting should take over for the EU, and if certain members *cough* hungary *cough* don't like it they should take their toys and go play somewhere else

it just makes the EU look like an ineffectual joke and adds fuel to the fires of those who wish to burn it down

in reply to Aral Balkan

their women are very pretty, and all the men like to watch videos of the pretty women kissing, so when they kock out hungary...the will be hungry for hungarian pretty women kissing.

I guess that has to be it, anyother reasons i cant think off