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Mozilla Names New CEO, Firefox To Evolve Into A "Modern AI Browser"


Mozilla Corporation has named its new CEO in replacing interim CEO Laura Chambers.

Anthony Enzor-DeMeo has been named the new CEO of Mozilla Corporation. Anthony Enzor-DeMeo was SVP of Firefox from 2004 to July 2005 and then from July until now was the GM of Firefox at Mozilla. He's written a public message today in his first day serving as the new chief executive for Mozilla.

Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions."


in reply to gtr

Is it still kicking? Wow, never thought I'd come back to Dillo, Midori, Epyphany (GNOME Web) and links.
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

OK peeps, crowd sourcing time.

What other gecko (or non-webkit) browsers are out there?

in reply to deadbeef79000

Desktop:
+ Librewolf (Codeberg)
+ Waterfox (GitHub) (Also available for Android)
+ Mullvad Browser (GitHub)

Android:
+ IronFox
+ Fennec F-Droid (GitLab)
+ WebLibre (GitHub)

in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

There’s also Zen, which is Firefox based and will be disabling ai features!

zen-browser.app/

Still in beta though

in reply to Gamma

I've played enough perpetually Early Access / beta vudeo games, beta web browser is just another software to me πŸ˜…
in reply to Gamma

It's in beta but I daily drive it and I would say is basically as functional as Firefox already
in reply to Gamma

I found zen to be too busy for me, ironically. Maybe I should give it another go
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Except that *Fox, *Fennec and *Wolf are downstream to Firefox, so if the main trunk goes shit, they will become outdated soon.
in reply to ThirdConsul

We'll cross that bridge when and if we come to it. Or rather we won't, but the devs behind these projects will.
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in reply to FoundFootFootage78

FOSS to thrive needs people who can afford to spend time and energy on it. With the recent enshittification of workers collective power, developers have less of both, and the trend is pessimistic.
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in reply to ThirdConsul

The answer is, and always has been, unions and strikes.

Do your part.

in reply to ByteJunk

Are you telling that to someone on a .ml instance?

Huh. :P

(This is of course a joke)

in reply to ThirdConsul

You kinda want it to be based on Firefox, as the only other option is chrome. The forks already strip out all the mozilla bullshit, it'll just be more work to strip out all the AI nonsense.

I'm mainly familiar with librewolf, it's not just stripped of nonsense but also hardened by default. Actually so much so that I stayed on Firefox as it was too much effort (so far) to "unharden" all the aspects I didn't want or need.

in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Aren’t these all soft forks of Firefox? What we need is a hard fork with the funding and team capable of sustaining it.
in reply to davel

Not really. Mullvad Browser is a Tor Browser fork. WebLibre is a Gecko-engine based Flutter browser written from scratch.
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Mullvad Browser is literally based on Firefox ESR. Which they clearly state.

For example: "Mullvad Browser 14.0, based on Firefox ESR 128"

mullvad.net/en/blog/mullvad-br…

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in reply to upstroke4448

Yes, but they and the Tor Project are making enough changes that Mullvad Browser can be considered a hard fork rather than a soft fork.
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

No they still base it off of Firefox so it's a soft fork. Hard fork is when you branch off and don't do a resync again.
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Tor Browser is a modified Firefox ESR, which is just Firefox with less frequent releases.
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in reply to deadbeef79000

I had to switch away because of incompatible websites (Cloudflare hates it) but Pale Moon is still hanging around.

Source available here.

in reply to Peffse

Looks nice. First thing I noticed is that their homepage works without JS. However I am surprised that they didn't remove the account syncing stuff, which could also be achieved with an extension.
in reply to deadbeef79000

If you want to sidestep firefox, all firefox descendants would eventually pose the same problem. So I think many options others provided are suboptimal in that regard.

I'm keeping my eyes on ladybird:
github.com/LadybirdBrowser/lad…
ladybird.org/

But it still is in its early stages.

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in reply to deadbeef79000

Not gecko but Ladybird is hopefully around the corner. Github
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in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

So I'm not ready to burn it all to the ground just yet. Mostly because chromium is still so much worse but also because, at least so far, I can disable that and I understand that "ai is money" for fundraising.

But... anyone have any thoughts on the various forks like waterfox and the other one? I don't mind grabbing the extensions I need on a new install but I DO need a way to be able to send tabs between devices. In theory that is something I can selfhost but I am not aware of a good solution.

in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent

Tldr: Zen is Arc Browser before they went AI brain worm but firefox based.

I like Zen browser because of their workspace thing. There's pinned tabs, but with zen each workspace can have its own pinned tabs. I still van set a global pinned tabs for all workspaces. And they work great with firefox containers. Each workspace can have a default container. So that way my work workspace can have only my work google account signed in, and my personal only with ny personal etc.

But ine of the major bugs though is that sometimes your tabs can just go poof. Had it happened to me earlier in the year, managed to restore my tabs somehow. Reported the bug but I don't see progress on the issue tracker as far as I ca understand.

If syncing netween desktop and monile is a concern, zen still uses firefox sync.

in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent

Mostly because Mozilla is terrible at achieving its goals, so this will probably result in nothing
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Ummmmm, what is an AI browser? I mean, other than something I don't want.

Does it browse AI generated content? Does it generate AI web pages for me? Does it just set chatgpt/copilot/grok/gemini as the homepage/default search? Does it use AI to customize content to your language/reading level? Does it flag non-AI content as potentially malicious like an http site?

I'm so lost.

in reply to yaroto98

You made me read the Comet browser review, as I did not have the courage to install it myself.

Seems useful if done privately and under supervision:
- has an AI chat sidebar that can interact with what you're viewing
- can fill out forms (eg. you can dump unstructured text and have it fill, instead of copying field by field)
- it can browse the internet for you - you ask it a question and watch it browse pages to find one with an answer
- it can summarize the currently watched page. Which at first I thought was ridiculous but sometimes you need to get information from shitty bloated articles with 10 paragraphs of introduction

As long as it's optional and done right (eg. It can fill the form but it's me who submits it, and the model is running locally), sounds very useful. Also no reason why it can't be a Firefox addon instead of built in.

in reply to dinozaur

I'm sorry, but it's not going to be. Mozilla set the stage of this when they changed from FOSS to source available.

I made this prediction right when this was announced.

in reply to dinozaur

so long as it’s optional, local, and private.


... yes but also

  • open source,
  • open model,
  • all annotations done with proper respect to
    • labor law (ideally verified by 3rd party)
    • IP


  • clear on ecological cost
    • CO2 eq in model card (ideally verified by 3rd party)
    • analogy non technical user can understand


... which makes for a rather limited list.

My own constraints fabien.benetou.fr/Content/Coll… recommendations welcomed, both on such rules but also on models that do fit, if any.

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in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

The article quotes him as saying:

AI should always be a choice β€” something people can easily turn off.


No big deal. If it turns out to be unethical it will be switched off in Librewolf.

in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Just in time since 2026 we get the alpha of the ladybird browser.
This will be a big boost for the new engines currently in development and the popularity of Librewolf.
in reply to varnia

Ain’t ladybird the browser with project lead Andreas Kling? Well… I don’t know if I wanna be part of that.
in reply to SwooshBakery624 [they/them]

Is KDE browser hanging around still? I know apple based their browser off of it.
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