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WTF Just Happened? | The Corrupt Memory Industry & Micron [GN]


Well, that's just really shitty.
in reply to Powderhorn

Cruical was the EVGA for ram & SSDs. Sad to see them go this way :(
in reply to Toes♀

Pouring one out for Soyo ... damn, were those some solid motherboards.
in reply to kipparikalle161

Their deep investigations are so good. I liked their documentary about GPU smuggling in China.
in reply to Powderhorn

This really is a new front in the war on general-purpose computing for regular people. The EU or some entity big enough that's outside of the US needs to fund new memory fabs ASAP and get this industry out of the hands of the present cartel.
in reply to Arghblarg

it's infuriating and honestly kind of scary. They're making gaming a luxury hobby, one auxiliary industry at a time. Every component that goes up in price is another reason for consoles to go up in price. More and more cool hobbies are slowly growing out of reach for the average person. Soon the only thing left to fill your free time will be alcohol and the sound of silence.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

You'll still be able to get consoles and cloud stream. The real problem is that the power to create is being taken away from regular people.
in reply to i_am_not_a_robot

cloud stream


That literally plays into the concept of big business having a monopoly

in reply to i_am_not_a_robot

There's a reason I'm still rocking CS6. Fuck you for wanting me to pay monthly.
in reply to djsaskdja

I've tried. SO many times. It's just so damn clunky. I ended up using Krita (also FOSS) instead.
in reply to djsaskdja

Gimp is not intuitive at all. Krita or Paint.net are good free alternatives and Affinity photo is great (but not free)
in reply to CybranM

Affinity is free as of a couple weeks ago. And there's talk of a Linux native version being considered iirc.

Requires a free license, so the old adage about you being the product probably applies.

in reply to dethedrus

Oh is it? TIL

Now if only they could make a Lightroom alternative Id be really happy

in reply to djsaskdja

I'm an old guy (started with Photoshop 5 -- not CS5; 5), and GIMP has never felt like software trying to help me accomplish a goal. It's the vi of image editors.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

Like everything else in this world, we need to wait for HBM to crash or for a competitor to get massive funding for DRAM when it becomes more profitable.

Companies only exist to seek profit, and HBM is way more profitable than anything they made for consumers.

It's possible this will precipitate a reduction in HBM costs until they come down to consumer levels, then we might end up with HBM instead of (G)DDR.

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in reply to coyotino [he/him]

Oh, I drink lots of beer while not wanting to call attention to my rave on wheels.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

More and more products that were previously targeted at what was the middle class are now targeting solely the top 10% of income earners. It's pretty tragic, and corrosive to the long term health of society.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

This seems to be the way things are going. On the plus side all of this has pushed me outside more. I've been picking up cheap or free outdoor activities that I now love. Birding and amateur photography have been my latest passions and they can be pretty cheap.
in reply to coyotino [he/him]

Phones as well. Each increase in the nand/chips makes phones and ANY consumer electronics that use it much more expensive.

It doesnt help when most devices that we buy are not designed to be repaired.

in reply to coyotino [he/him]

in reply to Powderhorn

I'm of the idea of not buying new tech ever again, with some exceptions on use case and rarity.

Instead, i'm a proponent of only buying 2nd hand or business surplus.

These companies don't deserve our money, and the average use case doesn't require the latest and greatest.

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in reply to CubitOom

I'm of the same mind. I did make an exception for a Pixel 9a because, well, that seven years of updates starts from the day it went on sale, so shaving a few years off that for minimal savings didn't seem ideal.
in reply to Powderhorn

Shame they are going to send you a "battery protection update" that makes your phone last 45 minutes between charges on year three.

I'd bet against any plan that requires Google to not fuck you over for a whole 7 years.

in reply to UnspecificGravity

I mean, I'm going to drop or sit on the thing in half that time. But allow a man to dream ...
in reply to Powderhorn

Can we get a TL:DW for people that don’t want to watch a video?
in reply to B0rax

You can always click on the transcript on YouTube if you'd prefer to read. If you then need it summarized, that's one of the things LLMs are actually (mostly) useful for.
in reply to Powderhorn

So a guy reads from an outline or script into a YouTube clip we can view (after ads) with a transcript we can then summarize with an LLM so we can replicate the outline or script originally used?

The downvote and next buttons are, like, right there.

in reply to corsicanguppy

Not really sure where you're coming from. If you don't want to watch a video ... like, maybe, just don't? I was attempting to provide solutions. And "a guy reads from a script" is literally how videos are made, so that's a weird flex.

Steve has really come into his own as EIC in the past two years, and the channel (which I used to ignore) is much better for it. Come for the stats, stay for the biting political commentary.

in reply to corsicanguppy

He also publishes written articles, but not for all videos, and not usually at the same time as the video.

Edit: also, there's more to the video than reading from a script. You'd know this if you, uh, watched the video.

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in reply to Powderhorn

Unless the YouTuber provides the transcript themselves, they're basically auto-generated captions that aren't accurate. And you still gotta have YT open to read it.
in reply to Powderhorn

You made the dreadful mistake of saying something positive about LLMs. We shall now proceed to downvote you accordingly.
in reply to B0rax

TL:DW;

Mr. Nexus still thinks its news that, under capitalism, production of luxury goods will always be sold to the highest bidder and not "the masses"

I didn't watch it either. But its about Micron no longer selling consumer ram in favor of the AI industry customer.

in reply to nagaram

Who tries to give a TL:DW for a video they didn't even watch? So weird
in reply to prole

in reply to nagaram

No, and your hostility is out of place. Do you have something against GN?
in reply to nagaram

Thanks! So literally a nothing burger.

I hate YouTube clickbait.

in reply to Seefra 1

Well I mean the 3 DRAM manufacturers that matter all made the decision to ramp down consumer RAM manufacturing. OpenAI alone is buying up 40% of all global DRAM production.

Given all the financial fuckery going on with OpenAI and the AI and hardware industries in general, I'm pretty sure this is intentional price fixing.

in reply to boonhet

So just another day in capitalist society. Nothing to write home about imo.
in reply to Seefra 1

Just accepting how fucked things are does not advance change. Others being concerned about it benefits you, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.
in reply to Powderhorn

It's just that society has much bigger problems than the price of ram sticks.

Like the price of housing, the price of food, transportation..

I don't find this even worth mentioning, that's just it.

in reply to Seefra 1

So, you're going with the slippery slope: There are so many other problems, why worry about a new one?

I'm homeless and struggle to afford food, so I'm aware of the larger issues in play. The problem here is that we're adding a new one atop societal decay. Handwaving each new fuckup away is how we succumb to a future without agency.

Now is the time to be shouting from the rooftops, not giving up.

in reply to Seefra 1

Nothing in modern society works without computers, so everything will get a bit more expensive with DRAM and NAND chips multiplying in price. Hell, wages may go down at low margin businesses dependent on computing.

It's not apocalyptic by any means, but it's just more salt in many wounds.

For us gamers, RAM is a once every 5 or 10 years expense. If you buy it more often, you're just wasting money most likely. Businesses may buy a lot of new computers every year, or they might use cloud compute services that will also get more expensive.

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in reply to Seefra 1

Micron took millions in tax payer dollars from the CHIPS Act to build fabs. To then turn around and shut down their consumer market is kind of fucked. That's a little more than a nothing burger.
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in reply to nagaram

So there's three companies that make almost all the DRAM and they're now all ramping down production of consumer RAM.

They've also done price fixing in the past.

I don't think much math needs to be done.

in reply to boonhet

I respect that Steve was able to control himself and only make a 25 minute video on this.
in reply to nagaram

You can only use so many "fucks" before a video is demonetized. Running any longer would have come up against that wall.
in reply to B0rax

in reply to cecilkorik

I watched it yesterday and only a couple things I have to add.

First is that the bipartisan CHIPS act basically shovelled taxpayer money into Micron's pockets to increase their manufacturing, but they are reducing their consumer output anyway, so Steve's point is consumers are not getting anything out of the subsidy they made.

Second is, since any potential increase in production is to cater to their largest data centre customers only, Steve is suggesting that this could be part of a push to move people to subscription-based cloud computing by making personal computing tha you buy and own unaffordable.

in reply to Rentlar

We should all find ways to minimize our taxes. Why should we contribute?
in reply to B0rax

I think a lot of people left out the fact that these companies have been accepting public funds for R&D and expansion, and now they're no longer using those funds to sell consumer products, but rather dumping them into the insatiable maw that is AI.
in reply to artyom

Socialize the costs. Privatize the profits.
in reply to quick_snail

Are you actually claiming that I should be providing a video summary? Like, that's in my wheelhouse, but I'm not on the clock, so apologies that you had to click the link.
in reply to Powderhorn

I'm saying don't post to videos.

Posting articles with embedded videos is OK. But just pasting a god damn video link is low effort, and not welcome. It's poor lemmyquite

in reply to quick_snail

I'm sorry. Are you a mod here? You're just bitching that you didn't get exactly what you wanted served on a platter.
in reply to quick_snail

But just pasting a god damn video link is low effort


imagine 4 things that could be posted:

  • a 3 minute long video
  • a 3 hour long video
  • a 250 word article or blog post
  • a 25,000 word article or blog post

do you have a sufficient grasp of how the internet works to understand that the effort involved in posting a link is exactly the same in all 4 cases?