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And how many fireplaces could possibly be built to scale this business model?

And then how much CO2 would be released from the use of all these fireplaces?

I like the project, but I'm not sure it can reasonably scale.

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Just some small addition: As a geologic term, the word sand specifies only grain size and not composition. The sand battery could very well be filled with sand, provided the crushed soapstone has the correct grain size.
In everyday language, "sand" is obviously understood differently, but I think this should at least be noted in a fact-check. Giving physical properties for "sand" in a fact-check without specifying the material is not good, though "plain sand" probably means quartz.
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I guess the district heating infrastructure was already there in Pornainen, powered by burning something.

I don't know how widespread this is in Finland?

e.g. I visited a friend in Oulu (pop. 200k) and was impressed by the district heat there, including keeping cycle paths free of snow. Powered by peat burning at the time, I think that is changing now. Info here oulunenergia.fi/en/heat-and-en…

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sand is defined by grain size, not composition.

That said, awesome stuff

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clew

Explain more? If it makes sense for 50,000 people, why not build one in each neighborhood of 50,000?

District heat/cooling with ground loops moving heat around between seasons seems pretty hopeful, for example. Not free, but keeps people healthy using less than it takes now. No?

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ohir

> just don't make sense at scale.
Thermal batteries are way cheaper and better scaled up. The higher Volume / area ratio is the insulation costs per MWh are lower.

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