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More like 1976. Things started seriously going to shit in about 1980.
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I thought compared to the crisis today it's just history?
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I suppose things looked, and still look, different in Europe.

In 1980 Ronald Reagan was elected President of the United States. Jimmy Carter was President before him.

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Even when I saw the matrix in the theater as a young man I was all "they're just saying that to flatter the audience."

In terms of civilization America was a cesspool. Every year after I was born was less civilized than the last at an accelerating rate. Even as a young man in 1999 I could see this. The people around me could not.

The digital and information revolutions slowed the rate of decline. In hindsight this wasn't enough to overcome our core values as a people - greed, cruelty, brutality, and violence. More recently the 2016 US fascist revolution and COVID slowed the rate of decline but only because it temporarily crippled the actual drivers of decline.

So yea, I don't think the meme is accurate. You need a people committed to doing the work to maintain and grow institutions which uphold civilization. In the US we decided to end that around the time of Reagan.

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Offtopic: The reason the Matrix is one of my favourite movies is because it illustrated in the coolest, non-esoteric way possible what the ancient Sanscrit described as _our illusionary world, called Maya_.