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[Android] How is Florisboard not popular?


In my search for good keyboard that support AMOLED mode, I found out about FlorisBoard which looks perfect to me. It even supports Halmak Keyboard Layout, which I didn't expect to find at any Android Keyboard.

Which make me ask, How is this keyboard not popular?

in reply to King

Most common letter E is too far right to be useful as single hand Typer (LH)
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in reply to Axolotl

Maybe they have small hands AND a large screen to compensate. Don't shame.
in reply to Axolotl

Its the short thumb being the issue, I buy the smaller phone screens on purpose
in reply to King

I tried it, but ended on heliboard which has glide typing, Floris didn't at the time
in reply to leftascenter

In addition to glide typing, Heliboard also has some of the best layout customization options out there, such as the option of disabling context-dependent menus. I HAAAAAATE how other keyboards change the keys available on the period key menu on URL bars. I use colons and forward slashes way more often than ".com", which I use... well, never.
in reply to Not a newt

Wait, it can do that???
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in reply to Fortatech

Yes, it's the "Show TLD popup keys" setting under "Preferences".
in reply to leftascenter

Heliboard is fantastic ❤️

  • glide typing.
  • multiple languages at the same time (without switching).
  • extremely customizable in nearly every way.
  • customize long-press options for each key with multiple / list of options. For instance, I've extended the number keys row with my most-used emojis, so holding '1' gives me a pop-up with '❤️😍😘🥰', 2 gives '🙂😊😃😄', etc.
  • 'snippets' via custom dictionary with shortcuts (typing 'xx' shows my primary email for 1-click insertion, 'yy' shows secondary email; endless possibilities). Possible with most keyboards, though.
  • and so much more.

I haven't found anything that comes even close.

in reply to leopardpuncher

multiple languages at the same time (without switching).


Is that an option to enable somewhere?

in reply to King

I just got attached to Typewise (despite not being Open Source sadly). It is one of few apps, where I bought an expensive lifetime option.
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in reply to Mora

I think Keybee (Repo) is the open source alternative to this, although I don't know how active is the developer.
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in reply to sem

Once you get used to it, it is pretty ideal for typing with both thumbs. The core principle is that the buttons are bigger and less used buttons are placed further outward from the center and at the bottom.

(In this example I've highlighed all letters from the bottom 2 rows which are slower to type due to thumb movement. Keep in mind that I am using a german layout for english text, the other layouts place some letters differently.)

It is also great because it causes visible confusion to people seeing my screen or even worse wanting to type something on it.

But most importantly: it works for me. Back when I switched to Typewise open source keyboards did not have swiping (or it wasnt great). And the default keyboard layout is not great for typing with my fat thumbs. Typewise worked so well for me that I do not miss swiping at all. Of course it is a matter of preference.

in reply to King

Got a shit tonne of experience with open source keyboards. Literally the only kind of app I can say I have good enough experience to have an opinion on and heliboard has hands down been the best.
in reply to AstralPath

I think FUTO is very shady company from my reading about it.

I am not saying they are evil, but they are very sus.

in reply to King

I'm interested if you have to reliable links to share!
in reply to AstralPath

I tried it out recently but the gesture typing seemed way worse than heliboard
in reply to smeg

That's fair. I know nothing of gesture typing tbh. All I care about is that my apps aren't spying on me.
in reply to smeg

It does not use proprietary typing data. So, it can be slightly worse.

But, you can always contribute some data here: swipe.futo.org/

in reply to smeg

Do you know how to get voice recognition on heliboard?
in reply to sem

Not something I have any interest in using, so afraid I've never tried it
in reply to King

How is this keyboard not popular?


their front page explicitly says "Currently in beta state" and according to their docs installation via Google Play requires joining a beta tester group.

that means a random user searching "keyboard" on the Play store isn't going to see it. likewise if a friend told you "I use Florisboard" and you searched for it by name in the Play store. if you're not already in the beta test group the direct link to the app page literally 404s.

it's certainly available to power users who already know they want it, but it's sort of pointless to ask why it's not popular at this stage of its development.

in reply to spit_evil_olive_tips

WEEEEELLLL that's what Fdroid is for and my friends with android all already have fdroid because "youtube downloaders be there" is all I had to say.

They just like the google key~~logger~~board.

in reply to King

I've become dependent on SwiftKey. Unfortunately, it's invasive. I block network access on the app. It works great without it. It adjusts sensitivity and accuracy based on your typing habits, fixing mistakes over time that I make incessantly on other keyboards.
in reply to King

I also use FlorisBoard, it's the best one I've tried. I don't use spell checking or suggestions so lack of that didn't bother me, the general functionality and design was just better than other options.

Development has recently started on it again, so these missing features will probably be implemented soon, which will probably help it's adoption!

in reply to King

There's a very simple explanation to every "how is (niche technological thing) not more popular?" questions, and that is simply... Most people are perfectly happy with the defaults.

Don't take this Fediverse instance and the people who interact with it as an example. Even Reddit's tech subs are very niche serving, most of the responders will be people who live and die with tech... which does NOT represent the great majority of people.

Said great majority is perfectly happy with their phones as is. The default keyboard is 99% of the time perfectly usable. So people don't even feel a need to change. Therefore niche keyboards will have very little popularity. Even big ones like SwiftKey.

in reply to King

Try my oled theme.

It was on the florisboard theme page but the dev took it down because I made it in florisbord not in a repo

in reply to King

I use futo keynoard ans I dind it to be a better experiemve
in reply to King

Serious question: what problems does the default keyboard have that Florisboard is trying to solve? I've never looked at the Android keyboard and thought "I wish this worked differently," except maybe when I switch languages by accident.
in reply to ryven

It depends on the phone's brand. Samsung's keyboard is way different from Motorola, for example.
The other reasons would be the possibility of customization, and for privacy-minded people, as the keyboard is basically a very sensitive entry point
in reply to King

I really like the ethos of Florisboard, but their spell check is just not in a state that makes it usable for me.
in reply to King

I want a keyboard that can do both, English/German typing, and Japanese IME. So far all FOSS keyboards I've tried can do only one of the two well, and I don't want to switch between different keyboards for those two things.

I'm open for recommendations if you have any tho! I

in reply to King

I, for one, prefer Unexpected Keyboard because it has alt, ctrl, fn, and easy access to all the symbols i need for English and Portuguese. Sadly, it lacks some emoji, but i never used them much beforehand; just feel like i'm missing out lol.

the basic idea is that you tap a key, and drag towards an optional character you want to use, to enter it. here's a preview:

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in reply to cockmushroom

This is my preferred keyboard as well. Always thought autocomplete were more of an annoyance than a help. And nice to have all keys available when using remote desktop or ssh, where autocomplete is especially annoying.
in reply to King

MUCH prefer AnySoftKeyboard as it has niceties like easy switching of language on the fly, arrow keys and other stuff like that, i just wish the autocomplete was not worse than not having any as it actually wastes your time showing you whatever incorrect and extremely unlikely suggestions it wants instead of something that actually follows what you're writing
in reply to King

How did not anyone mention lack of autocorrect? Am I out of the loop how to enable that?
in reply to King

I use Swipe typing a lot! Does Florisboard have it yet?
in reply to King

I've used it for years and like it a lot. Development seems kinda slow, though, and there aren't that many themes. Those might be downsides to some people. I think it pretty popular, though. A decent number of people seem to use it.