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The #Kremlin has revised its #nuclear #policy. Does that make the use of atomic #weapons more likely?


Source: apnews.com/article/russia-nucl…

It adds that nuclear weapons could be used in these scenarios: If reliable information is received about the takeoff or launch of strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic or other flying vehicles and their crossing the Russian border.


So a #military drone across the border is enough? Nearly the same bullshit is standing in the US version. This means they can use nuclear weapons in every war at any time.

#fail #news #warfare #war #Problem #conflict #defense #earth #future #politics #diplomacy

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This is why the MAD strategic framework was so important. It made clear that anything approaching the use of nuclear weaponry is suicidal. Anything edging toward that ending is insane.
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Used to be that most people expected WWIII to begin with an invasion of West Germany from East Germany. NATO, I think, promised to respond to such an invasion with nuclear weapons.

Remarkably, Germany is now united again. WWIII didn't begin in Germany, and NATO and the USSR did not rain down nuclear weapons on each other.

So, the question is: Is Putin crazy enough to actually use nuclear weapons and not just threaten to? Is NATO likely to respond to Russian aggression with nuclear weapons? I think the answer to both questions is probably "No," but I also think that it's past time to start a process ending with a worldwide ban on the manufacture and possession of nuclear weapons. Yes, I recognize that the inspections necessary to enforce such a ban would require some surrender of national sovereignty, and I'm OK with that.

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Any aggression against Russia & its allies, aggression not necessarily nuclear, inevitable retribution includes evoking nuclear deterrence as validating or underpinning. It seems to me that's standard operating procedure and strategic I guess...
What seems inevitable to me is current reality. Forever war.
We have become completely detached .
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Somewhere on the planet there are always wars. This has been a feature since even before humans created fixed settlements. It seems that humans are not happy unless they are slaughtering each other.
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War may be a "natural" part of our general tribal or nation-state situation - but we sure as hell do not want have everyone wiped out.
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So, the question is: Is Putin crazy enough to actually use nuclear weapons and not just threaten to? Is NATO likely to respond to Russian aggression with nuclear weapons? I think the answer to both questions is probably "No,"


The question "Will Russia invade eastern Ukraine?" before the war was also "No" from all sides.

Nuclear weapons are spread over the world and at places that are not secure:
1) North against South Korea
2) Pakistan against India
3) Israel against Iran
4) Saudi Arabia against Jemen
5) China against Taiwan

Ask a search engine of your trust if you think Saudi Arabia has no nuclear weapons.

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Somewhere on the planet there are always wars. This has been a feature since even before humans created fixed settlements. It seems that humans are not happy unless they are slaughtering each other.


There is a theory that war was invented with settlement (not before).

A conflict between two nomadic tribes can be resolved simply by both going their separate ways. With enough resources and a low population density, this is the most sensible solution to the conflict.

With sedentarization came agriculture. Now it happened that nornads drove their herds across a farmer's field that was about to be harvested because, in their understanding, the land belonged to everyone or no one. The farmer was angry and because the nornads kept doing this, the townspeople beat the nornads to death. This was the birth of the war.

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That is a pretty good theory.

Then there are other related things humans have invented:

theonion.com/oh-girls-are-no-g…

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Oh I agree with that 100%. In politics women often think they have to act like men to get ahead and the result is "no change".
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By the way I think that Onion article is one of the funniest things ever written.
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"First the bestiality of imperialism. A bestiality that has no borders nor belongs to a particular country. The nazi borders were beasts, just as the Americans are beasts today. Like the Belgian parachuters, like the French imperialists in Algeria. BECAUSE IMPERIALISM IN ITS VERY ESSENCE IS WHAT TRANSFORMS MEN INTO BEAST, it’s what transforms men into blood-thirsty beasts, ready to slit people’s throats, assassinate and destroy every last image of a revolutionary of a supporter of a regime who had fallen under its boot. Or who has been fighting for his freedom..."
Chi Guevara

reddit.com/r/socialism/comment…

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Nuclear deterrence is aimed to ensure that any potential adversary realizes the inevitability of retribution in case of an aggression against Russia and its allies,” it says.

There is a lot of very scary wiggle-room here. "aggression" is a rather broad concept. "retribution" is not even defense. And "allies"???

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just as the Americans are beasts today

Not as beastly as the people physically invading another country and lobbing unceasing missiles into civilian homes and gathering places.

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if you train women like men they can do the same mistakes.

But of course. To think otherwise would be sexist.

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tomgrzybow@societas.online "a bestiality that has no borders nor belongs to a particular country."
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“a bestiality that has no borders nor belongs to a particular country.”

One risks the effectiveness of condemnation through dilution.

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"One risks the effectiveness of condemnation through dilution"
No.