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FBI raids home of prominent computer scientist who has gone incommunicado


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in reply to compostgoblin

After 2 weeks I think they would say something if they had something, and even then...
in reply to compostgoblin

is he in custody or did he disappear with some state secret off to China?
in reply to Fiction

Usually they announce arrests. I'm guessing he fucked off back to China before they could pick him up.
in reply to catloaf

How fucked is it that we can say 'hopefully he escaped back to PRC China from America' without laughing?
in reply to Fiction

What are you talking about. State secrets are well protected by Elon Musk
in reply to Fiction

Considering unmarked govt cars showed up at their house. I'd wager they were disappeared.
in reply to BossDj

Looking at Democratic donations lists to see if he's there.
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in reply to BossDj

“It’s Biden’s fault.”
— conspiracy-loving right winger… probably
in reply to compostgoblin

Either he was arrested with no record of the arrest (i.e "disappeared") which is a new line for the administration to cross, or he disappeared for another reason (by himself, or with help or coercion by a foreign entity like the CCP), and the FBI is investigating.

I hope journalists keep on this because the first option would be a huge problem that everyone needs to know about, but without more information, the second is also a possibility. The CCP is known to have agents in western countries that manipulate and pressure ex-pats to return to China. Keeping an open mind now will also strengthen the argument if evidence for the former comes to light.

in reply to Jason2357

new line for the administration to cross


they have been disappearing people for years at this point.

The CCP


"us fascism is china's fault!"

in reply to umbrella

You should work on your reading comprehension some. They just listed that as a singular option and listed helping them escape at the same time.
in reply to Jason2357

Well, the current government don't like yellow-brown-black people. They also started little feuds all over the world, but everybody knows the big beef is against China. Also, in a war against the USA, the commander in chief of the USA is Trump. Food for thought.
in reply to Jason2357

The CCP is known to have agents in western countries that manipulate and pressure ex-pats to return to China.


The seeseepee is “known” to do that if you believe Cold War II bullshit propaganda about “secret police stations.”

in reply to davel

Well sure, but also like, the real police stations like in Hungary.
in reply to compostgoblin

I’d be shocked if this isn’t another professor that’s been caught working with China. Been a lot of that being brought to light throughout academia.

Doesn’t look good within the context of everything else going on right now.

in reply to surph_ninja

Yeah, if only we had a free press that could keep the public informed about matters so we could know what the fuck is actually going on anymore.

It's especially weird the university just didn't release a statement about it or anything.

It definitely could go either way

If we actually still had a free press, you would expect this to be getting some coverage and for there to be some kind of statement from the University's lawyers saying they were cooperating with the FBI if this guy was legitimately wanted for shady dealings.

It's fucking sad that we all read this and have to think, is this the FBI handling a legitimate threat or is this why DHS keeps complaining about Civil Rights Offices standing in their way.

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in reply to Basic Glitch

The press remained almost unanimously silent on the Assange persecution, the abductions & assassination of journalists by US allies, and the slaughter of journalists by Israel.

The press itself played a pivotal role in eliminating the free press.

ETA: Let me be clear- I don’t simply mean “eliminating the free press” in principle. I say it in the most literal sense. I mean literal wholesale slaughter of journalists by the west.

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in reply to surph_ninja

True, there was not a whole lot of mainstream media coverage of assange but there were journalists from places like the intercept and I believe rolling stone or vice also covering it.

In this case, and many cases all over the country lately, I'm finding that tiny local news outlets are doing a better job keeping us informed than mainstream media or even larger less mainstream news outlets.

Also realized that if this was a case of spying it would seem very unlikely he would have a lawyer at his residence while it was being raided but who tf knows. Not us.

in reply to Basic Glitch

The Intercept revealed Reality Winner as their source to the government, and helped bury the Hunter Biden laptop story. Fuck the Intercept.
in reply to surph_ninja

Yeah fuck the intercept, not really the point.

My point is that while big news networks are fucking around it's the locals news and individuals who are getting fucked over the most by this bullshit who are actually trying to make sure this shit doesn't get buried

in reply to Basic Glitch

Not really. Sinclair broadcasting bought up most of them. Unfortunately all of the best investigative reporting is being relegated to bloggers and independent journalists.

We really need to bring back laws on limiting media ownership.

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in reply to surph_ninja

Yep fuck Sinclair broadcasting too, but as you can see, the only news covering this is from local Indiana news reporting.
in reply to surph_ninja

China, for sure, has spies,... who doesn't. But the overwhelming majority of these cases tend to be non factual. Causes like fearmongering, departmental rivalries, someone wanted a medal, gathering prisoners for exchange, setting example, etc... are usually what is behind this. If I were a Chinese researcher, no matter the area of expertise, I would leave the US... and this is not Trump! This is the current US policy that all sides subscribe to.
in reply to edel

Incorrect. If they weren’t doing anything wrong, they wouldn’t be hiding supplemental income from and agreements with Chinese sources.

I don’t even oppose partnerships with China. I’m fairly pro-China. But it needs to be done out in the open, with proper procedure followed.

in reply to surph_ninja

You really don't know how researches work... they get to be in multiple projects globally, specially when working in a university... that is why of the name. Besides, the US is highly sensitive with confidential information and for the most ridiculous things you need a "security clearance" that he will never get even the most basic one.
Today, most on the spying is not done presentially within the target country, let alone with such a prominent position.
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in reply to edel

Are you sure that you know how it works? They are legally required to disclose those relationships and payments received.
in reply to surph_ninja

No much. He would have to declare if conflict of interest or to IRS. But strong feeling that is not the case. Again, if evidence was there, the FBI and even Trump would be all over with the evidence. This guy, probably had no even Confidential Security Clearance (lowest one). The only thing I can think of is industrial espionage but those are brought by the injured party and goes to a normal judicial channel... nothing indicates that is the case here.
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in reply to edel

That’s been exactly the case with multiple researchers and professors for the past decade. They’re not complying with disclosure laws.
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