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Hey jdvance? It looks like your white supremacist buddies were the ones trafficking fentanyl, not migrants.
Weird the republicans are drug trafficking, weapons violations and COVID-19 and loan fraud.
43 republicans in San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang members charged in federal indictment.
#election #USA #voteblue #vote #election2024 #debate
Dozens of San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang members charged in federal indictment, DOJ says
Federal prosecutors said 42 members and associates of a San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang were arrested and indicted.ABC7 Los Angeles
#Trump’s ‘Gish Gallop’ #Debate #Tactic Comes from #Creationists
#politics #usa #election #vote #president #Problem #ethics #creationist #creationism #fake #media
Trump's Weird Debate Strategies Come From Creationist Tactics
A dishonest creationist debating tactic shouldn’t go unchallenged in American life. Or in national politicsScientific American
To repeat:
IS EVERYONE ELSE AS HAPPY AS I AM ABOUT THIS TIMING? Especially after #JDVance’s election denial at the #debate.
“We need to tell the story,” #TimWalz said. “I mean, he lost this #election & he said he didn’t.”
Walz often speaks w/a how’d-I-even-get-here feint toward political humility….
At his most effective, he is a kind of Labrador retriever of a communicator: affable, game, just happy to be there….
On Tues, after some dissembling earlier in the #debate — …Walz made a bid for the high ground, summoning more compelling details from his biography.
But when the #debate turned, near its final frames, to the subject of the 2020 election, #Vance faced a choice: He could validate, once more, #Trump’s relentless #lies about his defeat 4 yrs ago. Or he could try something else in the spirit of moving forward.
It did not seem like a difficult decision for him.
#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda
#honesty #integrity #democracy #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024
#JDVance wanted to focus on the future, he said. His past, & his party’s, intervened.
For some 90 mins, #Vance, a proud #Republican ambassador to the online #right, had largely tailored his #debate-night message to a mass audience, avoiding most detours into #conservative fever swamps, as if determined to deliver a rolling rebuttal to Democrats’ longstanding suggestion that he was “#weird” & out of step.
By Matt Flegenheimer
#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate#HarrisWalz2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/us/politics/vance-jan-6-debate.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
Among the #lies #Trump running mate #JDVance told over the course of the #VPdebate w/ Governor #TimWalz, denying his support for a national #AbortionBan may haunt him the longest because it is so easily disproven. Rachel #Maddow shares #Vance's own words contradicting his claims at the #debate, & discusses w/MSNBC colleagues.
#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda
#honesty #integrity #democracy
#ReproductiveRights
#HarrisWalz2024
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"He offered ludicrous non-answers on housing and climate change. And all of those lies and nonsense helped prop up his broader gaslight-narrative goal."
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/10
"The moments from this debate that are going to resonate were all JD Vance errors.
Walz, just nailing the moment, interjected 'that’s a damning non-answer.;
That was the critical moment when the mask slipped. Vance lied about Trump’s economic record and his health care record and his abortion record."
~ Dave Karpf
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/9
https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/jd-vance-couldnt-quite-gaslight-the
JD Vance couldn't *quite* gaslight the audience for the full 90 minutes.
The format favored Vance, but he couldn't make it the whole way without being creepy and weird.Dave Karpf (The Future, Now and Then)
"If you didn’t watch tonight’s debate, this is all you need to know:
JD Vance’s solution to the mass killing of school children is 'stronger windows.'
Not one child has ever been shot through a school window. ...
My wife Tracy turned to me about halfway through the debate and sighed, 'Vance is a such a sleazy, oily, adept liar.'”
~ Lucian K. Truscott
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/7
https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/vance-is-such-a-sleazy-oily-adept
"Even if no minds are changed, the debate was still illuminating. J.D. Vance is as uncommitted to the truth as Donald Trump is."
~ Joyce Vance
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/6
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/walz-versus-vance
Walz versus Vance
Thanks to those of you who came and joined the debate chat tonight!Joyce Vance (Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance)
"Vance appeared slick, poised, and dare I say, held himself like a leader would. Still, the snake oil he was willing to ingest and sell to others was on full display."
~ Alicia Norman
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/5
https://oneangryblackchick.substack.com/p/tim-walz-shellacked-vance
"Quick debate take: the fact that the most upset/alarmed Vance got last night was at the prospect of being fact checked shows that…in every debate…
FACT CHECK!
Vance’s entire debate strategy was premised on NOT being fact checked.
And as a result, he lied the entire night."
~ David Pepper
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/4
https://davidpepper.substack.com/p/new-pod-episode-vance-replace-experts
NEW POD EPISODE: Vance -- Replace Experts with Loyalists
WATCH: Vance Last Night and its Ties to Project 2025David Pepper (Pepperspectives)
"Vance was a chameleon."
~ LaTosha Brown
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/3
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/01/who-won-vp-debate-walz-vance
Vance or Walz: who won the VP debate? Our panel responds
Walz was solid but underwhelming, while Vance nimbly reset his public imageMoustafa Bayoumi (The Guardian)
"JD Vance is a slick debater. He has the natural advantages of lacking a moral core and an ability to lie shamelessly."
~ Dan Pfeiffer
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/2
https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/no-jd-vance-didnt-win-the-debate
The Pundits are Wrong: JD Vance Didn't Win the Debate
Vance impressed the pundits, but Walz scored points on the issues that matter to votersDan Pfeiffer (The Message Box)
"Vance won against Tim Walz if you don't care about his lies."
~ John Harwood
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/1
https://zeteo.com/p/jd-vance-tim-walz-debate-winner-trump-harris
"On the debate stage, facing two audiences—the people of the United States on one hand, and Trump on the other—Vance refused to acknowledge that Trump lost.
That moment tells you the most important thing about Vance: When democracy is in peril, he will bow to Trump, not to the people or the Constitution. He must never be given that chance."
~ Will Saletan
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/12
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-one-question-that-mattered-in-the-vp-debate-vance-walz
The One Question That Mattered in the VP Debate
JD Vance failed to reject Trump’s lies about the 2020 election. He can’t be trusted to protect democracy.Will Saletan (The Bulwark)
Back in the day, we called that a #palter.
#lie
#starwars
#factcheck
US Republicans in full meltdown because their "fake news" game is terrible.
#VPdebate
#Debate
#Democrats vs #Republicans
#election2024
#2024election
Just gonna sum the #VPdebate up at this point
facts vs fantasy
&
answers vs avoidance
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024
15 minutes until the start of the #VPdebate
#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024
Boosts ♻️ appreciated to enlarge the poll sample size; TYVM!
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#Poll #Polls
#PollOfTheDay
#Debate #VPDebate
- Yes 100% (100%, 1 vote)
- No 100% (0%, 0 votes)
- Considering/Maybe (0%, 0 votes)
- But Family Guy is on (0%, 0 votes)
From late summer’s VP pageant of Democratic middle-aged American white men, #TimWalz emerged as an avatar of football-coaching, social-studies-teaching, father-figure affability, & this appeal helped carry him past arguably more strategic choices to a spot on the #Harris ticket. His affect, along w/his record as #Minnesota governor, made progressive policies look like a matter of folksy #CommonSense.
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #GenderRoles #ToxicMasculinity #TonicMasculinity #masculinity
Perhaps no previous politician has taken up the mantle of Dad in quite the way #TimWalz has.
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #GenderRoles #ToxicMasculinity #TonicMasculinity
#masculinity
That may be true in a sociological context, but in the realm of pop culture & style, the increasing ambiguity of “dad” has made it a handy floating signifier.Dad jokes, dad hats, dad shoes, dad bods, dad thrillers, dad rock, sad dads: to the extent that “dad” is a brand, dad is never bad.
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #GenderRoles #masculinity #TimWalz #JDVance
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #GenderRoles
#TimWalz #JDVance
In 1991,…Chris Matthews, in a TNR column, proposed a dichotomy that has since become a cliché: the #Democrats were the “Mommy” party [🖕], responsible for the nurturing work of #healthcare, #education, & #SocialSecurity [those exclusively female concerns?], & #Republicans—the “Daddy” party—protected the country from criminals & foreign adversaries & kept a stern eye on the finances [soooo #sexist].
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #ToxicMasculinity
#TimWalz #JDVance #DaddyIssues #masculinity
This stylistic contrast promises to be especially sharp on Tues night, when #JDVance & #TimWalz meet in NY for the #VPdebate. And, even more than competing visions of #manhood, on view will be 2 very different ideas of what it means to be a #father: a battle of the dads, if you will.
In a country given to worshipful talk of #FoundingFathers, it’s not a new subject on the #political stage. Still, it has tended to be more conceptual than personal.
The #Trump campaign has reveled in *camp masculinity* [#ToxicMasculinity] (as Ezra Klein called the RNC’s lineup of high-#testosterone speakers…); the #KamalaHarris campaign, meanwhile, has showcased “the nice men of the left” [or #TonicMasculinity] (as Rebecca Traister characterized a contingent of surrogates led by #DougEmhoff).
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism
#TimWalz #JDVance #DaddyIssues #masculinity
#TimWalz & #JDVance’s Battle Of The Dads
[or, at least for #Vance, #DaddyIssues]
Duelling visions of #fatherhood at the #VPdebate.
Despite the possibility of a #female #POTUS, #masculinity …[is at]…the center of the #2024election—a development both parties seem to have embraced.
#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #ToxicMasculinity v. #TonicMasculinity
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/tim-walz-and-j-d-vances-battle-of-the-dads
One photo that circulated during his rise to national attention was taken after he’d signed a bill to provide free school breakfasts & lunches; around the governor’s shoulders, smiling children were piled like puppies. #TimWalz embodies a model of #nontoxic #masculinity the #Harris campaign has hoped to represent w/…[groups like]“#WhiteDudesForHarris”…. “
🎯Via Mark Jacob:
This is what it looks like when a news outlet thinks the job of a journalist is simply turning on the microphones.
Jay Rosen:
CBS News Says It Will Be Up To #JDVance And #Walz To Fact-Check Each Other. https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10
ABC showed it could be done. Now:
"CBS News is clearly indicating it wants to take a step back from the heat generated by calling attention to misleading statements by candidates." #debate
CBS News says it will be up to Vance and Walz to fact-check each other in veep debate
When JD Vance and Tim Walz take the stage for next week's vice presidential debate, CBS News says it will be up to the candidates, not the moderators, to fact-check each other.DAVID BAUDER (AP News)
"Kamala Harris Accepts CNN's Debate Invite, But Trump Says 'It's Just Too Late'"
"Kamala Harris has accepted CNN’s invitation for a second presidential debate, but Donald Trump says that 'it’s just too late'."
Kamala Harris Accepts CNN Debate Invite, Trump Says It's 'Too Late'
Kamala Harris has accepted CNN’s invitation for a second presidential debate, but Donald Trump says that "it’s just too late."Daniel Kreps (Rolling Stone)
#Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global #community
Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global community
The televised face-off between the leading candidates for US #president amplified widespread concerns over the state of #democracy in the troubled North American nation.
...
Held in the relatively stable northeastern state of #Pennsylvania on the eve of the 23rd anniversary of the country’s worst terrorist #attack, the debate was a chance to showcase the democratic progress the country had made since the violent, shambolic elections and attempted #coup nearly four years ago.
#usa #politics #election #vote #WhiteHouse #news #harris #trump #future #vote #terror #Problem
Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global community
The chaotic face-off between Trump and Harris added to concerns over the state of US democracy.Patrick Gathara (Al Jazeera)
#USpolitics #Debate #LaughingStock
"Coming Live to you from SPRINGFIELD OHIO" [0.20 min]
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"The MOMENT An ENTIRE Debate Watch Party LAUGHED At Trump…" by Occupy Democrats
#VoteBlue #UpAndDownTheBallot #ImWithHer