Hey jdvance? It looks like your white supremacist buddies were the ones trafficking fentanyl, not migrants.

Weird the republicans are drug trafficking, weapons violations and COVID-19 and loan fraud.

43 republicans in San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang members charged in federal indictment.

https://abc7.com/post/dozens-san-fernando-valley-white-supremacist-gang-members-arrested-charged-federal-indictment/15385105/

#election #USA #voteblue #vote #election2024 #debate

Dozens of San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang members charged in federal indictment, DOJ says

Federal prosecutors said 42 members and associates of a San Fernando Valley white supremacist gang were arrested and indicted.

^{ABC7 Los Angeles}

#Trump’s ‘Gish Gallop’ #Debate #Tactic Comes from #Creationists

Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-weird-debate-strategies-come-from-creationist-tactics/

#politics #usa #election #vote #president #Problem #ethics #creationist #creationism #fake #media

Trump's Weird Debate Strategies Come From Creationist Tactics

A dishonest creationist debating tactic shouldn’t go unchallenged in American life. Or in national politics

^{Scientific American}

To repeat:

IS EVERYONE ELSE AS HAPPY AS I AM ABOUT THIS TIMING? Especially after #JDVance’s election denial at the #debate.

#Trump #JackSmith #TrumpIndictment

#OctoberSurprise #TimingIsEverything

“We need to tell the story,” #TimWalz said. “I mean, he lost this #election & he said he didn’t.”

Walz often speaks w/a how’d-I-even-get-here feint toward political humility….

At his most effective, he is a kind of Labrador retriever of a communicator: affable, game, just happy to be there….

On Tues, after some dissembling earlier in the #debate — …Walz made a bid for the high ground, summoning more compelling details from his biography.

#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #Vote #HarrisWalz2024

But when the #debate turned, near its final frames, to the subject of the 2020 election, #Vance faced a choice: He could validate, once more, #Trump’s relentless #lies about his defeat 4 yrs ago. Or he could try something else in the spirit of moving forward.

It did not seem like a difficult decision for him.

#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda
#honesty #integrity #democracy #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024

#JDVance wanted to focus on the future, he said. His past, & his party’s, intervened.
For some 90 mins, #Vance, a proud #Republican ambassador to the online #right, had largely tailored his #debate-night message to a mass audience, avoiding most detours into #conservative fever swamps, as if determined to deliver a rolling rebuttal to Democrats’ longstanding suggestion that he was “#weird” & out of step.

By Matt Flegenheimer
#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate#HarrisWalz2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/us/politics/vance-jan-6-debate.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

Among the #lies #Trump running mate #JDVance told over the course of the #VPdebate w/ Governor #TimWalz, denying his support for a national #AbortionBan may haunt him the longest because it is so easily disproven. Rachel #Maddow shares #Vance's own words contradicting his claims at the #debate, & discusses w/MSNBC colleagues.

#FactCheck #VanceLies #VPdebate #disinformation #propaganda #trumpaganda

#honesty #integrity #democracy
#ReproductiveRights
#HarrisWalz2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMEkEo1ak68

"He offered ludicrous non-answers on housing and climate change. And all of those lies and nonsense helped prop up his broader gaslight-narrative goal."

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/10

"The moments from this debate that are going to resonate were all JD Vance errors.

Walz, just nailing the moment, interjected 'that’s a damning non-answer.;

That was the critical moment when the mask slipped. Vance lied about Trump’s economic record and his health care record and his abortion record."

~ Dave Karpf

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/9

https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/jd-vance-couldnt-quite-gaslight-the

JD Vance couldn't *quite* gaslight the audience for the full 90 minutes.

The format favored Vance, but he couldn't make it the whole way without being creepy and weird.

^{Dave Karpf (The Future, Now and Then)}

"If there is a 'sound bite' that will define the debate, it is when Tim Walz said that JD Vance gave a 'damning non-answer' in refusing to acknowledge that Donald Trump lost in 2020."

~ Robert B. Hubbell

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies
/8

https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/tim-gets-the-job-done

Tim gets the job done!

October 2, 2024

^{Robert B. Hubbell (Today's Edition Newsletter)}

"If you didn’t watch tonight’s debate, this is all you need to know:

JD Vance’s solution to the mass killing of school children is 'stronger windows.'

Not one child has ever been shot through a school window. ...

My wife Tracy turned to me about halfway through the debate and sighed, 'Vance is a such a sleazy, oily, adept liar.'”

~ Lucian K. Truscott

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/7

https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/vance-is-such-a-sleazy-oily-adept

"Vance is such a sleazy, oily, adept liar."

^{Lucian K. Truscott IV (Lucian Truscott Newsletter)}

"Even if no minds are changed, the debate was still illuminating. J.D. Vance is as uncommitted to the truth as Donald Trump is."

~ Joyce Vance

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/6

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/walz-versus-vance

Walz versus Vance

Thanks to those of you who came and joined the debate chat tonight!

^{Joyce Vance (Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance)}

"Vance appeared slick, poised, and dare I say, held himself like a leader would. Still, the snake oil he was willing to ingest and sell to others was on full display."

~ Alicia Norman

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/5

https://oneangryblackchick.substack.com/p/tim-walz-shellacked-vance

Tim Walz Shellacked Vance!!

It wasn't even a contest!

^{Alicia Norman (Alicia’s Substack)}

"Quick debate take: the fact that the most upset/alarmed Vance got last night was at the prospect of being fact checked shows that…in every debate…

FACT CHECK!

Vance’s entire debate strategy was premised on NOT being fact checked.

And as a result, he lied the entire night."

~ David Pepper

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/4

https://davidpepper.substack.com/p/new-pod-episode-vance-replace-experts

NEW POD EPISODE: Vance -- Replace Experts with Loyalists

WATCH: Vance Last Night and its Ties to Project 2025

^{David Pepper (Pepperspectives)}

"Vance was a chameleon."

~ LaTosha Brown

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/3

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/01/who-won-vp-debate-walz-vance

Vance or Walz: who won the VP debate? Our panel responds

Walz was solid but underwhelming, while Vance nimbly reset his public image

^{Moustafa Bayoumi (The Guardian)}

"JD Vance is a slick debater. He has the natural advantages of lacking a moral core and an ability to lie shamelessly."

~ Dan Pfeiffer

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/2

https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/no-jd-vance-didnt-win-the-debate

The Pundits are Wrong: JD Vance Didn't Win the Debate

Vance impressed the pundits, but Walz scored points on the issues that matter to voters

^{Dan Pfeiffer (The Message Box)}

"Vance won against Tim Walz if you don't care about his lies."

~ John Harwood

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/1

https://zeteo.com/p/jd-vance-tim-walz-debate-winner-trump-harris

Smooth, Agreeable, and So Dishonest: JD Vance's Vice Presidential Debate Performance

^{John Harwood (Zeteo)}

"On the debate stage, facing two audiences—the people of the United States on one hand, and Trump on the other—Vance refused to acknowledge that Trump lost.

That moment tells you the most important thing about Vance: When democracy is in peril, he will bow to Trump, not to the people or the Constitution. He must never be given that chance."

~ Will Saletan

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #lies #gaslighting
/12

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-one-question-that-mattered-in-the-vp-debate-vance-walz

The One Question That Mattered in the VP Debate

JD Vance failed to reject Trump’s lies about the 2020 election. He can’t be trusted to protect democracy.

^{Will Saletan (The Bulwark)}

Content warning: VP debate, posting gripe Reveal/hide

Just gonna sum the #VPdebate up at this point

facts vs fantasy

&

answers vs avoidance

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024

15 minutes until the start of the #VPdebate

#TimWalz #JDVance #debate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024

#TimWalz killed it on the #healthcare #debate!!!

I mean really.

Killed it.

#JDVance actually tried to sell us that “#Trump saved #Obamacare” 🤣😂😆

Are you kidding me?????

Do you know how many times that jackass tried to overturn the #ACA?? I can’t even count the number!

#VPdebate #Election2024 #Vote #VoteBlue #HarrisWalz2024

• Yes 100% (100%, 1 vote)
• No 100% (0%, 0 votes)
• Considering/Maybe (0%, 0 votes)
• But Family Guy is on (0%, 0 votes)

From late summer’s VP pageant of Democratic middle-aged American white men, #TimWalz emerged as an avatar of football-coaching, social-studies-teaching, father-figure affability, & this appeal helped carry him past arguably more strategic choices to a spot on the #Harris ticket. His affect, along w/his record as #Minnesota governor, made progressive policies look like a matter of folksy #CommonSense.

#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #GenderRoles #ToxicMasculinity #TonicMasculinity #masculinity

In 1991,…Chris Matthews, in a TNR column, proposed a dichotomy that has since become a cliché: the #Democrats were the “Mommy” party [🖕], responsible for the nurturing work of #healthcare, #education, & #SocialSecurity [those exclusively female concerns?], & #Republicans—the “Daddy” party—protected the country from criminals & foreign adversaries & kept a stern eye on the finances [soooo #sexist].

#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #ToxicMasculinity
#TimWalz #JDVance #DaddyIssues #masculinity

This stylistic contrast promises to be especially sharp on Tues night, when #JDVance & #TimWalz meet in NY for the #VPdebate. And, even more than competing visions of #manhood, on view will be 2 very different ideas of what it means to be a #father: a battle of the dads, if you will.

In a country given to worshipful talk of #FoundingFathers, it’s not a new subject on the #political stage. Still, it has tended to be more conceptual than personal.

#debate #USpol #sexism #masculinity #DaddyIssues

The #Trump campaign has reveled in *camp masculinity* [#ToxicMasculinity] (as Ezra Klein called the RNC’s lineup of high-#testosterone speakers…); the #KamalaHarris campaign, meanwhile, has showcased “the nice men of the left” [or #TonicMasculinity] (as Rebecca Traister characterized a contingent of surrogates led by #DougEmhoff).

#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism
#TimWalz #JDVance #DaddyIssues #masculinity

#TimWalz & #JDVance’s Battle Of The Dads

[or, at least for #Vance, #DaddyIssues]

Duelling visions of #fatherhood at the #VPdebate.

Despite the possibility of a #female #POTUS, #masculinity …[is at]…the center of the #2024election—a development both parties seem to have embraced.

#VPdebate #debate #USpol #sexism #ToxicMasculinity v. #TonicMasculinity
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/tim-walz-and-j-d-vances-battle-of-the-dads

One photo that circulated during his rise to national attention was taken after he’d signed a bill to provide free school breakfasts & lunches; around the governor’s shoulders, smiling children were piled like puppies. #TimWalz embodies a model of #nontoxic #masculinity the #Harris campaign has hoped to represent w/…[groups like]“#WhiteDudesForHarris”…. “

#VPdebate #debate #USpol #GenderRoles

🎯Via Mark Jacob:

This is what it looks like when a news outlet thinks the job of a journalist is simply turning on the microphones.

Jay Rosen:

CBS News Says It Will Be Up To #JDVance And #Walz To Fact-Check Each Other. https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10

ABC showed it could be done. Now:

"CBS News is clearly indicating it wants to take a step back from the heat generated by calling attention to misleading statements by candidates." #debate

CBS News says it will be up to Vance and Walz to fact-check each other in veep debate

When JD Vance and Tim Walz take the stage for next week's vice presidential debate, CBS News says it will be up to the candidates, not the moderators, to fact-check each other.

^{DAVID BAUDER (AP News)}

"Kamala Harris Accepts CNN's Debate Invite, But Trump Says 'It's Just Too Late'"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kamala-harris-accepts-cnn-debate-invite-trump-too-late-1235108752/

"Kamala Harris has accepted CNN’s invitation for a second presidential debate, but Donald Trump says that 'it’s just too late'."

#debate #trump #harris

@MeidasTouch
@KamalaHarrisWin

#USpol #Elections2024 #Pets #Debate #HistoMusic
#Trump #Harris

🎵 I love this! 💚

#DogsOfMastodon
#PetsOfMastodon

https://mastodon.social/@cmconseils/113134726257245657

Cc
@cmconseils

Laura Manach :bongoCat:

2024-09-14 07:28:43

Omg I'm laughing so much 😂😂😂😂
https://onerpm.link/EatingTheCats

#Music #Song

Eating the Cats (Donald Trump Remix)

Choose your preferred music service

^onerpm.link

#Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global #community

Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global community
The televised face-off between the leading candidates for US #president amplified widespread concerns over the state of #democracy in the troubled North American nation.

...

Held in the relatively stable northeastern state of #Pennsylvania on the eve of the 23rd anniversary of the country’s worst terrorist #attack, the debate was a chance to showcase the democratic progress the country had made since the violent, shambolic elections and attempted #coup nearly four years ago.

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/9/11/debate-in-nuclear-armed-former-colony-fails-to-reassure-global-community

#usa #politics #election #vote #WhiteHouse #news #harris #trump #future #vote #terror #Problem

Debate in nuclear-armed former colony fails to reassure global community

The chaotic face-off between Trump and Harris added to concerns over the state of US democracy.

^{Patrick Gathara (Al Jazeera)}

#USpolitics #Debate #LaughingStock

"Coming Live to you from SPRINGFIELD OHIO" [0.20 min]

ripped from
"The MOMENT An ENTIRE Debate Watch Party LAUGHED At Trump…" by Occupy Democrats

#VoteBlue #UpAndDownTheBallot #ImWithHer

One more gif from the debate.

#debate #uspol #harris
@KamalaHarrisWin