Just remember that the formal governments are not really in charge. If "government" is a useful word at all, it refers to that which governs. The government is the large multinational corporations.
Or, the government is the body of power who enforce the decisions of those corporations. So, overthrowing the government leaves the corporations powerless, and the people free to ignore them (and hang them)
The manufacturer of your new car knows who you are, where you are, and your whole travel history. They know how fast you drive, how hard you brake. They know where you buy gasoline. They know what you listen to while you drive.
They sell all this information to anyone they want to. They can't be made to provide any evidence that the data they sell is not falsified. No laws limit their data collection or prohibit them from falsifying it. They can make your life much more expensive. There is no process of law involved at any stage in this process. What is normally called "the government" is not involved at all.
Without "the government" who will stop the car manufacturers from bricking your car if you don't buy "subscriptions" from them?
The corporations have the technical means to rule us without police and courts being involved at all. They don't need the help of "the government." In fact, it will take something like "the government" to stop them.
Trump isn't trying to strengthen "the government;" he's trying to abolish it
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Take new cars as an example.
The manufacturer of your new car knows who you are, where you are, and your whole travel history. They know how fast you drive, how hard you brake. They know where you buy gasoline. They know what you listen to while you drive.
They sell all this information to anyone they want to. They can't be made to provide any evidence that the data they sell is not falsified. No laws limit their data collection or prohibit them from falsifying it. They can make your life much more expensive. There is no process of law involved at any stage in this process. What is normally called "the government" is not involved at all.
Without "the government" who will stop the car manufacturers from bricking your car if you don't buy "subscriptions" from them?
The corporations have the technical means to rule us without police and courts being involved at all. They don't need the help of "the government." In fact, it will take something like "the government" to stop them.
Trump isn't trying to strengthen "the government;" he's trying to abolish it because it keeps interfering with the plans of those who actually govern.
Very interesting David. We're talking about the two "sides" of what we call government. I was thinking about the side that repress people's natural aspiration to democracy/socialism/freedom and keep them in line with police and judges , and you mention the side that, when public opinion, or strong working class action forces them, will enforce (or pretend to enforce ) laws to protect the public, even pro-labour laws in soc-dem countries!
It reminds me of another two-side issue : education / schooling. A) education is a human right and a population without education would have low or zero political consciousness. B) education is a factory to create brainwashed robots, compliant workers.
I think both are true in the same time. Like particule/wave dual property of light for instance 😅
David
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in reply to anonymiss • • •So, overthrowing the government leaves the corporations powerless, and the people free to ignore them (and hang them)
David
in reply to anonymiss • • •Take new cars as an example.
The manufacturer of your new car knows who you are, where you are, and your whole travel history. They know how fast you drive, how hard you brake. They know where you buy gasoline. They know what you listen to while you drive.
They sell all this information to anyone they want to. They can't be made to provide any evidence that the data they sell is not falsified. No laws limit their data collection or prohibit them from falsifying it. They can make your life much more expensive. There is no process of law involved at any stage in this process. What is normally called "the government" is not involved at all.
Without "the government" who will stop the car manufacturers from bricking your car if you don't buy "subscriptions" from them?
The corporations have the technical means to rule us without police and courts being involved at all. They don't need the help of "the government." In fact, it will take something like "the government" to stop them.
Trump isn't trying to strengthen "the government;" he's trying to abolish it
... Show more...Take new cars as an example.
The manufacturer of your new car knows who you are, where you are, and your whole travel history. They know how fast you drive, how hard you brake. They know where you buy gasoline. They know what you listen to while you drive.
They sell all this information to anyone they want to. They can't be made to provide any evidence that the data they sell is not falsified. No laws limit their data collection or prohibit them from falsifying it. They can make your life much more expensive. There is no process of law involved at any stage in this process. What is normally called "the government" is not involved at all.
Without "the government" who will stop the car manufacturers from bricking your car if you don't buy "subscriptions" from them?
The corporations have the technical means to rule us without police and courts being involved at all. They don't need the help of "the government." In fact, it will take something like "the government" to stop them.
Trump isn't trying to strengthen "the government;" he's trying to abolish it because it keeps interfering with the plans of those who actually govern.
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Mozilla Foundationpascal macaigne
in reply to anonymiss • • •Very interesting David. We're talking about the two "sides" of what we call government.
I was thinking about the side that repress people's natural aspiration to democracy/socialism/freedom and keep them in line with police and judges , and you mention the side that, when public opinion, or strong working class action forces them, will enforce (or pretend to enforce ) laws to protect the public, even pro-labour laws in soc-dem countries!
It reminds me of another two-side issue : education / schooling.
A) education is a human right and a population without education would have low or zero political consciousness. B) education is a factory to create brainwashed robots, compliant workers.
I think both are true in the same time.
Like particule/wave dual property of light for instance 😅
pascal macaigne
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