Swiss messaging service Threema is being acquired by German investment company Comitis Capital
Translated from German (with DeepL):
The Swiss messenger service Threema is being acquired by the German investment company Comitis Capital. Both the company and Threema itself emphasize that the arrival of the new investor will not lead to any significant changes for the time being. The company headquarters and servers will remain in Switzerland, and the management team will stay unchanged.
A financial investor with a broad portfolio
Comitis Capital is a young private equity firm, not a technology company. It invests in various industries, including a UK-based supplier of vegan meat alternatives and a manufacturer of dog accessories.Its business model consists of providing financial support to promising companies so that they can grow and establish themselves internationally. “Comitis now clearly sees this potential in Threema too,” says SRF digital editor Tanja Eder.
Data protection as a business model
The strong focus on data protection is considered a key strength of the messenger. Precisely because US tech companies are coming under increasing criticism and digital sovereignty is gaining in importance, Comitis sees this aspect as a clear unique selling point.Whether this will remain the case in the long term is unclear, according to Eder. If Comitis were to conclude at some point that it would be more profitable to collect Threema customer data or sell the company, no one could prevent them from doing so.
Trust in the authorities remains an issue
In Switzerland, federal authorities and the military also use Threema for internal communication. Even though everyone involved is aware that there is no such thing as absolute security, Threema still has advantages over its competitors.For example, Threema's source code is openly accessible. Experts in the fields of data protection, IT security, and research regularly check whether the company is keeping its promises. Government agencies can also carry out their own checks.
Hardly any alternatives on the market
Good alternatives to Threema are rare. “Apart from WhatsApp, which dominates the market, there is simply not much room for other messenger services,” notes the digital editor.Signal is considered another secure messenger alongside Threema. However, it is operated from the US, albeit by a non-profit foundation and financed by donations. In Switzerland, Proton offers encrypted emails, but does not have its own messenger service.
“Given this limited offering, we can only hope that privacy-friendly communication services will gain in importance in the future,” says Eder.
Threema setzt auch mit neuem Besitzer auf Datenschutz und Swissness
Der Schweizer Messenger Threema erhält einen neuen Eigentümer aus Deutschland. Am Datenschutz soll sich nichts ändern.Schweizer Radio und Fernsehen (SRF)

RunOblomovRun
in reply to simsala • • •What a bunch of marketing bullshit. If at all there is an abundance of good alternatives.
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in reply to RunOblomovRun • • •jim3692
in reply to FoundFootFootage78 • • •piyuv
in reply to jim3692 • • •Prunebutt
in reply to FoundFootFootage78 • • •like this
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vatlark
in reply to Prunebutt • • •TerHu
in reply to Prunebutt • • •for decentralisation/ selfhosting it’s probably the simplest and most battle tested option as it just needs a mail server and nothing fancy
machiavellian
in reply to Prunebutt • • •Deltachat can't be considered as private as Signal, SimpleX, Briar, Threema or Cwtch due to the fact that it's based on the mail protocol. The mail protocol will always leak metadata (who, to whom, where and when) because it could't function otherwise. And because we live in a world of surveillence, metadata can be oftentimes more valuable than the message itself.
Also saying that deltachat is unblockable because it is based on the mail protocol would be the same as saying that every app utilizing VOIP is unblockable because it uses the TCP/IP stack and blocking it would render the internet unusuable.
Prunebutt
in reply to machiavellian • • •The metadata-issue is addressed in their FAQ
And to the blocking issue:
From signal-contingency-plan.info
Delta Chat: FAQ
delta.chatmachiavellian
in reply to Prunebutt • • •delta.chat/en/help#message-met…
> Doesn't store any metadata on servers
> Servers still see the sender and reciever and the message size
Explain how this is not contradictory.
Furthermore my original argument on protocol blocking still stands (if almost all communication platforms rely on a widely used protocol, the blocking of which is infeasble, then how is this a feature noone else besides deltachat has).
And as
... Show more...delta.chat/en/help#message-met…
> Doesn't store any metadata on servers
> Servers still see the sender and reciever and the message size
Explain how this is not contradictory.
Furthermore my original argument on protocol blocking still stands (if almost all communication platforms rely on a widely used protocol, the blocking of which is infeasble, then how is this a feature noone else besides deltachat has).
And as the FAQ brilliantly illustrates, you don't have to block the mail protocol to inhibit deltachat users from communicating. All you have to do, is just shut down the relays which are crucial to masking your metadata.
Speaking of relays, all they do is transfer the trust. Without using relays you have to trust that normal mail servers wont't log your activity (they do). With relays you have to trust that the relay operators won't log your activity.
Delta Chat: FAQ
delta.chatCount042
in reply to machiavellian • • •Ontimp
in reply to FoundFootFootage78 • • •Lemmchen
in reply to RunOblomovRun • • •freebee
in reply to Lemmchen • • •Lemmchen
in reply to freebee • • •Share of WhatsApp users in selected European countries 2024
Statistafreebee
in reply to Lemmchen • • •Ontimp
in reply to freebee • • •Flipper
in reply to RunOblomovRun • • •The perfect messenger would be open and private.
That means open source, federated with portable account's, e2e encrypted, minimal metadata storage, discoverable contacts, easy to self host as compute, storage and knowledge.
That doesn't exist as of today. Also it's really hard.
Pretty much everything is better than WhatsApp though.
Cursive was added later or modified to clarify.
vatlark
in reply to Flipper • • •Flipper
in reply to vatlark • • •At least matrix doesn't let you move your account to other server. Also it doesn't minimize metadata storage. Its is stored on every server for a room.
The other two I don't know. I'll look them.up.
Butterphinger
in reply to Flipper • • •The Quuuuuill
in reply to Butterphinger • • •Butterphinger
in reply to The Quuuuuill • • •Hell prosody has a module for sending invites.
I'd argue sending someone xxxx@server.fuck and a password is even easier.
Step 1: Download Monal, Snikket or Conversations
Step 2: toss this info in
Step 3: ??? Profit
use a pastebin
Ontimp
in reply to Flipper • • •Yes but those things are being worked on including meta data encryption.
Also, strictly speaking you can migrate accounts, it's just a little cumbersome and needs either some manual effort or separate tooling. I agree though that it should be considerably easier.
artyom
in reply to Flipper • • •myserverisdown
in reply to artyom • • •artyom
in reply to myserverisdown • • •Matt
in reply to Flipper • • •Ontimp
in reply to Flipper • • •Any number of Matrix-based messengers fulfill most of those criteria; meta data reduction could be better but we're getting there.
Also Signal is very decent alternative if you want a WhatsApp-like UX from a trustworthy source.
This reporting seems quite one-sided.
Flipper
in reply to Ontimp • • •Ontimp
in reply to Flipper • • •termaxima
in reply to simsala • • •"Companies" are a fundamentally fucked way to organize the economy.
Anything good a company does can be destroyed almost completely when someone buys them. We need to make structures that are fundamentally, legally resistant to this kinda thing.
tourist
in reply to simsala • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to simsala • • •Phoenixz
in reply to simsala • • •Be honest
There you go. For the time being will be about a month or so and then it's time for the enshittification partyyyyy!