That's absolutely sad to read. The CEO of @mullvadnet is not only financing the far-right Swedish Örebro party, but he even is their main financer. 70+% of their money is his donation. He is the reason why they go nationwide this year.
For obvious reasons i cease to trust this service. Also i do not finance parties that aim for forced deportations.
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Techprofil ger miljoner till Örebropartiet
It-bolaget Mullvads grundare donerade fem miljoner – till parti som vill se ”storskalig återvandring”Jacob Lundberg (Flamman)
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Yalle
in reply to Jörg Seidel • • •@mtriclot Here is their response :
"Hello,
Mullvad is a political company. We fight for freedom of speech, freedom of information and the right to privacy. These are firmly held values of the founders of Mullvad.
Mullvad protects the right for people to express things we don't agree with. We protect the right of everyone to access views we don't agree with.
We also live these values by being tolerant in our daily work. Everyone is welcome to collaborate with Mullvad if they share these narrow core values. As employees, contractors, customers, suppliers, lobbyists, campaign partners or whatever it might be. No matter what their other opinions are and no matter whether the founders or anyone else in Mullvad dislike them. The founders themselves fundamentally disagree on several important issues.
This is what allows us to advance our common causes. Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment is also liberating and promotes truth seeking.
The mor
... Show more...@mtriclot Here is their response :
"Hello,
Mullvad is a political company. We fight for freedom of speech, freedom of information and the right to privacy. These are firmly held values of the founders of Mullvad.
Mullvad protects the right for people to express things we don't agree with. We protect the right of everyone to access views we don't agree with.
We also live these values by being tolerant in our daily work. Everyone is welcome to collaborate with Mullvad if they share these narrow core values. As employees, contractors, customers, suppliers, lobbyists, campaign partners or whatever it might be. No matter what their other opinions are and no matter whether the founders or anyone else in Mullvad dislike them. The founders themselves fundamentally disagree on several important issues.
This is what allows us to advance our common causes. Being in a tolerant and intellectually open environment is also liberating and promotes truth seeking.
The more people do this, the better a place the world will be.
It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission, in the same way that someone's opinions on animal rights, taxes or public healthcare policy isn't."
My response : You say: “Mullvad defends the right of individuals to express opinions with which we disagree. We defend everyone’s right to access viewpoints with which we disagree.”
This is a purely rhetorical statement that no one (not even you) can agree with. You wouldn’t defend opinions that call for murder, to put it bluntly.
In my case, I do not agree with giving free rein to fascist opinions. The world does not become a better place because of them, contrary to what you write.
It’s clearly not possible to get a refund: you have a 14-day cancellation policy (which has expired in my case), and I don’t blame you for that. I shouldn’t have paid for such a long period, especially with a non-decreasing rate, and I’m the only one to blame. I just wanted you to know why I won’t be renewing, and why I’ll be urging everyone to steer clear of Mullvad."
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in reply to Yalle • • •And, of course, everyone has the freedom to use a different VPN. Proton VPN seems pretty good and they have a native Linux client.
Jasper Vinkenvleugel
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩
in reply to Jasper Vinkenvleugel • • •@jvnknvlgl
Seems they have apologised for it;
Proton has responded by quickly apologizing, saying, “Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program.”
xcancel.com/LundukeJournal/sta…
Wow, those comments under it are pure poison. Yech.
Nechesh
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •🐈⬛David Sommerseth
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩
in reply to Jasper Vinkenvleugel • • •Bloody hell. Are there any VPNs that aren't twats?
an actual bus
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •mauvedeity
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •@Naich @jvnknvlgl I use Tailscale, it’s mainly a device to device VPN, so that I can log into my Pi from away. They do support exit nodes in other countries, as well as having none of your nodes be an exit point. I’m hoping they’re good guys.
I use them because @cadey recommended them.
JP
in reply to 🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩 • • •🐈⬛David Sommerseth
in reply to JP • • •@froztbyte pointers to claims, please.
I've dug through some of those rabbit holes a few times earlier. It's mostly been misinterpreted information ending up with false fact claims, often due to Protons incapable public relation team combined with CEO statements adding more confusion than clarity. People teaching public relation management have an unending source of how to not do things when looking at Proton.
Majority of these false claims comes from users who gave Proton a clear-text recovery address which Proton had to give away as that was the Swiss courts ruling. If these users hadn't been as stupid to enable this recovery address, no information of real value could have been provided. Also, those recovery addresses was typically hotmail or gmail accounts. So guess what happens next when these requests comes from entities in the USA.
For VPN accounts, there is no logging of traffic. Which has even been confirmed by third party auditors ...
... Show more...@froztbyte pointers to claims, please.
I've dug through some of those rabbit holes a few times earlier. It's mostly been misinterpreted information ending up with false fact claims, often due to Protons incapable public relation team combined with CEO statements adding more confusion than clarity. People teaching public relation management have an unending source of how to not do things when looking at Proton.
Majority of these false claims comes from users who gave Proton a clear-text recovery address which Proton had to give away as that was the Swiss courts ruling. If these users hadn't been as stupid to enable this recovery address, no information of real value could have been provided. Also, those recovery addresses was typically hotmail or gmail accounts. So guess what happens next when these requests comes from entities in the USA.
For VPN accounts, there is no logging of traffic. Which has even been confirmed by third party auditors ... protonvpn.com/blog/no-logs-aud…
So yes, Proton has provided limited details due to law enforcement requests coming via Swiss courts. Which generally turns out valuable when the account owner hasn't understood how to protect its account. And if Proton - or Mullvad, or basically any other company in the world - don't adhere to court rulings, those companies won't survive the end of the day.
But if you're doing a more sane protection of your Proton account, there is generally very little which can leak out from it, even in cases which ends up in a disfavourable court ruling. Protecting your account is in the very end the account owners responsibility.
@Naich @pi_r @lostgen @mtriclot
For 5th year running, Proton VPN passes external no-logs audit
Andy Yen (Proton VPN)Astro 🐾
in reply to Jörg Seidel • • •Mullvad VPN
in reply to Astro 🐾 • • •Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy, with two equal co-founders, co-owners and co-CEOs who fundamentally disagree on many issues. Daniel's donation to a political party is private and not part of Mullvad's mission. We protect the right to express and access views we disagree with. We welcome anyone sharing these core values, whatever their other opinions. We are happy to refund others who don't, where we can.
Håkan Geijer
in reply to Mullvad VPN • • •Elena Brescacin
in reply to Jörg Seidel • • •In the hope to feel safer online, we literally have filled the wallet of a guy who has contributed "personally" to finance a very racist, ableist, homophobic, supremacist Sweden party.
That said... Hate speech is not free speech. Supporting politicians who think that homosexuality is immoral (or worse a crime), that non-white / migrant people have less rights than white, thinking of rolling back diversity and inclusion policies (including accessibility and disabled people's rights), well, these are not opinions. This is HARM, and no politician should support it.
I'm blind, I rely on accessibility, and, I use my freedom to speak, to say what I really think: instead of financing that crap, you should finance disabled people's safety on and offline.
You should replace a person who is in favor with those philosophies. I feel... Show more...
In the hope to feel safer online, we literally have filled the wallet of a guy who has contributed "personally" to finance a very racist, ableist, homophobic, supremacist Sweden party.
That said... Hate speech is not free speech. Supporting politicians who think that homosexuality is immoral (or worse a crime), that non-white / migrant people have less rights than white, thinking of rolling back diversity and inclusion policies (including accessibility and disabled people's rights), well, these are not opinions. This is HARM, and no politician should support it.
I'm blind, I rely on accessibility, and, I use my freedom to speak, to say what I really think: instead of financing that crap, you should finance disabled people's safety on and offline.
You should replace a person who is in favor with those philosophies. I feel double betrayed by you:
first, because at the moment, as far as I know, Mullvad is the best VPN service for accessibility to blind and with the most substainable/affordable payment conditions.
But then, I discover that it's yet another accessible technology but who licks the boots of MAGA and similar. It means that we, blind folks, are basically leashed. "you have no one but me", and you know what it means? It means control. It means that those fascists could, one day (far or near) ask for our data. How could I trust a company this way?
If you care of your business and reputation, you should at least find something better to say, to get out from this shit. I won't be silent from here; I always suggested mullvad to blind people asking for an accessible VPN, now I won't do any more but I'll warn about this political matter.
I won't ask for refunds, I have no longer energy to lose from here. 15 euro don't make me fail. After the current payment expires, I'll simply go away.
#accessibility #ableism #boycott #disability #blind #inclusion #wtf
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tk 🍜
in reply to Jörg Seidel • • •coincidentally, mozilla vpn is mullvad with a skin and a markup.
mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/subs…
Mozilla Subscription Services | Privacy Notice
MozillaMullvad VPN
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