I get why some people don't like Dawkins, because he was outspoken about "The God delusion". That aside, Dawkins knowledge of #EvolutionaryBiology is broad.
(a note for laypeople) Dawkins kept repeating "the animal survives" misleading narrative. "Survives" = long enough, to sexually develop, & reproduce it's genes (Dawkins knows this)
Making Sense with Sam Harris: #382 — The Eye of Nature
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Making Sense with Sam Harris: #382 — The Eye of Nature
Sam Harris speaks with Richard Dawkins about his new book , the genome as a palimpsest, what scientists of the future may do with genetic information, genotypes and phenotypes, embryology and epigenetics, why the Lamarckian theory of acquired charact…wakingup.libsyn.com
Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art
in reply to ScienceCommunicator • • •ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •Then don't reply! (Mute me!) *Some*, people don't like Dawkins because he was outspoken about, what he termed, the God delusion.
OK, you have your own personal reasons. I'm not interested in them, because, they're generally, misleading
Go after the actual misogynists. That are explicitly prejudice. In science, using technically correct terms such as "male" or "female" of a species, is not only NOT misogynistic, it's essential for, e.g., developing more precise acting medicines
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •I think that certain people have a personal vendetta against people that, for example, are critical of certain draconian beliefs & practice's.
So, they try & slander, spread lies about certain people such as Harris & Dawkins. And, some folk believe that propaganda.
You have stated slander against Dawkins & Harris (prehaps u believe it)
The ability to take criticism well depends mostly on how secure we feel about ourselves (including personal beliefs) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201110/the-narcissists-dilemma-they-can-dish-it-out
Sure, the narcissist's many defenses protect them, but at what cost?
Leon F Seltzer PhD (Psychology Today)Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art
in reply to ScienceCommunicator • • •I simply wanted you (and fellow fediverse folk) to know that many people dislike Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, for reasons different than the reason you stated. Apparently you already knew. Maybe I inspired someone else to do a search. Surely we are all free to make up our own minds.
Good on you for researching narcissism. Seems a wise precaution for someone who triply responds to one dose of criticism.
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •More misleading rhetoric. I responded calmly. I mean, (hehe), where have you personally criticised me?
Your mind, & your style of communication doesn't align with mine.
However, if, for example, l heard Sam say a blatantly misogynist belief, as if it were OK to believe it, IN his podcasts, that would be the last making sense podcast l listened to.
Basically, l take Sam's words in his podcasts, as evidence for or against something, more than what rhetoric you write here.
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •Some people are not interested in the truth (e.g., in-group V out-group bias)
You have stated "that Sam Harris spreads Islamic hate"
I have stated that that is slander (not the truth)
The reason why I know that Sam Harris doesn't have Islamophobia, is because I've listened to ALL of have Sam's 'Making sense' podcasts. When he speaks out against "Islam", for example, he specifically condemns 'deviants' that take part in acts of violence \ cruelty in the name (shame) of Islam
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •A few questions, if you'd be so bold
Do you agree, or disagree, with the following sentences?
1. It's OK to speak out against the people that excuse, advocate or take part in violence, in the name of a religion
2. Trans rights are to be respectfully considered as far as a persons mental health is concerned. But, medically, there are some differences between male & female anatomy \ physiology
3. "Men's" rights, "Trans" rights & "Women's " rights, are all equally human rights
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •A more direct question, that is related.
4. If for example, Isaac Newton had some misogynist personal beliefs, would you deny the #science of Newtonian #physics?
Can you separate the "man" from the science? Considering that physics isn't specifically the study of "man" (that's biology, anatomy, physiology, psychology, etc). Physics is the study of all objective reality.
Dawkins isn't sexist, in that he doesn't believe males are superior. He is an excellent biologist
Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art
in reply to ScienceCommunicator • • •Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •2/ It wasn't my intention to insult you or begin an exhaustive debate. We all have limited time & interests. I've unfollowed you & you feel free to share Sam Harris's every podcast with no concern of a comment from me. Umpteen toots ago you said that you & I have different brains & speaking modes. I agree. I assure you the only emotion I'm feeling is amusement. Again I worry you might be quite upset.
I skimmed your questions and will answer the one I want
Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •I can separate "the science from the man" as you say. There are a great many notable figures whom I find odious yet whose work I appreciate. I said I'm an artist! And I'm an American. I loathe every one of my country's "founding fathers" while supporting their republic. Thing is, I do not need to feel an emotion, positive or negative, about people I don't live with. That's a waste of energy. My time is limited. I do what I like.
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •@RMiddleton
Sure, but if you reply to my posts and spread, what I think is misinformation, I will counter that with evidence (e.g., anyone that listened to Sam's making sense podcast, would understand that Sam isn't Islamophobic)
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •You have not insulted me. But you have spread misinformation about Sam's & Richard's characters. IF, you know it's misinformation__that would be slander.
IF
Its common for folk that do not like people, to not care about the truth, when they spread malicious gossip about them. That can be simply folk that "haven't got the time" (can't be bothered), aren't motivated, to find out the truth of the matter (e.g., they don't listen to 'The Making sense' podcast, but have "opinions")
ScienceCommunicator
in reply to Rob 🏳️🌈 RMiddleton.Art • • •ScienceCommunicator
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