Always had a feeling this was true:
Sleep the right amount, live longer, sleep the wrong amount, age faster!
"...scientists narrowed down a “sweet spot” of between 6.4 and 7.8 hours of sleep per night. Sleep durations that fall too much on either side of that, the study found, were associated with accelerated aging." (For some it's 4, for some 9 though)
Just thought I would share this, as it seems important to all of us who don't love aging ❤️
futurism.com/health-medicine/h…
More Than This Many Hours of Sleep Is Linked to Early Death, Scientists Find
New research found that there's such a thing as too much sleep, which can accelerated aging and a higher risk of mortality.Frank Landymore (Futurism)
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Ulrich_the_Elder, 🇨🇦,🇺🇦,🇵🇸
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in reply to Ulrich_the_Elder, 🇨🇦,🇺🇦,🇵🇸 • • •@Ulrich_the_elder That sounds horrible, sorry to hear that. Hope you at least enjoyed your work friend!
Did your health condition dramatically decline after retirement? I heard drastic life changes can also have a major impact.
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in reply to Ulrich_the_Elder, 🇨🇦,🇺🇦,🇵🇸 • • •Cody Boone Ferguson
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in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •MadeInDex 📰🌎
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in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •well I saw rubbish like this decades ago and it irked me then too.
The simple fact is that humans are although the same species still they are different and some people need more sleep than others.
It’s just like the rubbish about how much water you should have. Really? Well tell that to people with kidney disease. Also lots of foods have fluid in them.
And for some things you have to deal with alleles and other things.
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •also some medications or other medical conditions change certain things.
If you want to talk about how everyone should get exercise: all and well but don’t be too presumptuous! If for example example they were to say that people should run every day then they would be dismissing people who are incapable of running even if they just have asthma. Or what about in very hot areas?
The fact is that these are at best guidelines. Some have merit but others questionable.
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •and some people say BMI should be abolished or not used. These people know nothing about prescribing because it sometimes is used when prescribing.
Just because YOU (by which I mean some people) don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s all bad. Some things are. But one such thing that is not that so many people criticise is BMI.
If medicine was as simple as some people make humans would be far healthier.
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •but as far as sleep goes. It’s utter tosh. Some people have really awful sleep. And let me tell you sleep deprivation is very bad not even just making it hard to function.
If you need more sleep then you should sleep more!
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •and do not even get me started on that myth that you must dream or you will go crazy (which isn’t even a medical term!).
Some people are very badly affected by dreams. That includes me. I thankfully have been able to mostly prevent them (and in particular vivid dreams) because they are invariably very bad and often nightmares. More than a few times I have got hurt because of a nightmare and falling out of bed!
On the contrary: dreaming makes me feel far worse.
MadeInDex 📰🌎
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •@xexyl Haha true, it's a lot of factors, however I think this kind of research is important to narrow it down and slowly understanding the human body by kind of reverse engineering it.
I also had a friend who was working in neuroscience and even the way the brain communicates with the body isn't fully understood.
Therefore successful head transplantations for example seem very far away.
As sensors get smaller and better, reverse engineering becomes easier & faster though!
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •yes the brain is something we know a lot about but there’s much more we don’t know about it.
And yes more research is certainly needed! But this idea that there’s a correct number of hours of sleep is utter rot.
It’s not black and white.
A better idea would be to study how to help people get better rest. Then they might not need as much sleep.
Either way the idea that you should only get a certain amount of sleep is dangerously stupid. They admitted it.
Cavyherd
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •The problem with BMI is that it is too often used as a proxy for "health," without taking into consideration any of the many important potential co-factors. There are circumstances where weight is an important data point (dosing being one very clear example, with anesthetia especially crucial). But in the general run, BMI is not used in any kind of nuanced way, is far too often used to shame a patient rather than actually •help•, & by itself is not in any wise diagnostic. >>
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cavyherd • • •@cavyherd it is used In prescribing. You and others can deny that all you want but that doesn’t mean you’re right. Medical books even discuss this.
The fact some people use it in other ways that aren’t useful is immaterial. You can say everything is rubbish that way.
Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •@cavyherd still I will concede that some people misuse it. And if people use it to shame others that’s sad. Although for me I would be inspired to do better (though there are conditions of course that make that very hard: thankfully I don’t have said problems).
But one must remember: the dose makes the poison.
The same applies to systems though perhaps a bit differently.
Cavyherd
in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •This seems like it needs to be a cross stitch. (Don't ask me why my brain decided this; I just live here.)
Cody Boone Ferguson
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in reply to Cody Boone Ferguson • • •@xexyl
I have lately become possessed of the need to cross stitch Clever & Insightful Sayings™, meme-like, I guess? (No clue why; cross stitch has never been an art form I've found particularly appealing?)
But I realized I can do it somewhat more quickly. (Which is not to say "quickly") with a graphics program. (Spoiler: it's not nearly as quick & easy as it seems it should be.) In this case I'm using Pixelmator, which is a Photoshop equivalent on the Mac.
MadeInDex 📰🌎
in reply to Cavyherd • • •Wade McGillis
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in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •"The key point is consistent sleep time, around 6 to 8 hours per day."
Yar har. They clearly presume way more control over one's sleep schedule than is the general rule in my circle of acquaintance....
MadeInDex 📰🌎
in reply to Cavyherd • • •Cavyherd
in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •A not-uncommon attitude among health advisors, in my observation.
If I did all the things I was "supposed to" do to have a "healthy life," I'd need 48 hours of waking time a day.
It's sorta like school. Each teacher loads you up with what they think is the right amount of homework, clearly forgetting that they are only 1 of N teachers, & theirs is not the only work you're on the hook to complete.
MadeInDex 📰🌎
in reply to Cavyherd • • •@cavyherd haha very good point!
Guess in the end I try to take general direction from it, like eat healthy, live healthy - meaning limit stuff that is clearly bad for you ;)
Cavyherd
in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •And one doesn't even necessarily have to limit the "bad" stuff all that much. Just saw a rec go by the other day saying: try to keep the "junk" down to 20% of your calories. Which makes a lot of sense to me!
Hey, if I could focus all my time, energy, & money on eating well, exercising, & sleeping properly, I totally would! Unfortunately, there's this small matter of keeping a roof over my head....
Khleedril
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in reply to Khleedril • • •@khleedril hahah billion dollar idea ;)
Although I suspect some smart watches or sleep trackers might offer such a feature perhaps?
MadeInDex 📰🌎
in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •Cody Boone Ferguson
in reply to MadeInDex 📰🌎 • • •@khleedril nobody here. And I would probably have to be writhing. Which certainly has happened many times.
Of course if it’s even worse where I am screaming that’s another matter and that can be helped.
Anyway I have known only two other people who don’t like dreams.
It’s called oneirophobia (or for me oneirophobia) (sorry but as a logophile I might as well say).
I guess people who have night terrors also hate but you know what I mean!