While onboarding is extremely easy, the real challenge is to find initial contacts or circles to chat with. There is no discovery and no central registry. Every new chat profile is private and nobody knows about it other than your contacts. So we are curious. What is the current number of chats (1:1 or group chats or channels) you have with #deltachat apps? Not contacts but chats you have read or wrote something into, in the last months.
If you are not using delta, please ignore this poll :)
If you are not using delta, please ignore this poll :)
- below 5 (62%, 246 votes)
- below 10 (21%, 84 votes)
- below 30 (11%, 44 votes)
- don't ask, too many (4%, 19 votes)
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in reply to Delta Chat • • •I don't use discovery on other platforms anyway.
Well, people use discovery to find me by my phone number on Whatsapp but that's usually for one-time chats like delivery or booking confirmations.
The main platform I use for messaging friends and family is Telegram. And I have unknown contacts denied there.
Gluek
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in reply to Delta Chat • • •That's privacy by design. Love it.
If you want random ppl to contact you, feel free to publish an invitation link. 🤷
Avoca
in reply to Delta Chat • • •DC is my primary messaging solution with family, friends and other techie types.
I only require Apple iMessage and regular text for customers, and that's only appointments and the like.
Secure Email is used for more important things.
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in reply to Delta Chat • • •To be precise: 1. But I get a lot of penis enlargement, and blue pills offers. Also requests to "verify" my address to receive packages, I'm not aware of.
The issue is, that most effective traditional e-Mail spam filters introduce delays, that many users deem unacceptable for a chat.
#deltachat
Delta Chat
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in reply to Delta Chat • • •I'm using a normal email address. And for the time being it'll stay that way - for different reasons. Though it is a mail address, I exclusively use for Delta Chat.
If you are aware, what I could add to my procmail file, to also filter out non-encrypted messages, that would be a huge help.
DIGITAL PRIVACY
in reply to 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽 • • •Instead of using the inbox you could use the DeltaChat folder - somewhere in the settings of the deltachat client.
Otherwise, you'll need to fight the spam with your email provider. Its not related to deltachat.
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in reply to DIGITAL PRIVACY • • •@digitalprivacy
How does the mail get into that DeltaChat folder? How does that get rid of the spam?
About where I'd have to change things: guess why I asked for any knowledge about the procmail file for DeltaChat. That is a standard way to tell a mail server, how to handle incoming mail.
Yes, that could also move mail to the DeltaChat-Folder, BTW. But it has to know which.
DIGITAL PRIVACY
in reply to 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽 • • •Not sure if your provider allows it but you could add a sieve filter and move your specific emails to the deltachat folder automatically.
𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽
in reply to DIGITAL PRIVACY • • •And how do I detect non-Spam messages. That is the question.
DIGITAL PRIVACY
in reply to 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽 • • •@cdonat
Do you use delta chat as your email client?
It sounds like you get a lot of spam and your email provider can't handle it. Might be better to use another email provider. It's also good to change your email address every now and then.
But to answer your question, you'll need to adjust the sieve filter yourself. Whatever most wording you have in your spam mails you create/adjust your sieve filter.
𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽
in reply to DIGITAL PRIVACY • • •@digitalprivacy
No, I don't use DeltaChat as my email client. In my normal mail-account I have quite some spam filtering active, but that adds latency, that generally isn't accepted in a chat by my communication partners.
I have an email-address, that is exclusively used for DeltaChat. I partially own my email provider, and therefore won't use a different one.
And the real question, you didn't answer again: how do I distinguish valid DeltaChat messages from spam?
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in reply to 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽 • • •@digitalprivacy
Before @delta responded, that a Chatmail-server only forwards encrypted messages.
So it is possible to detect valid DeltaChat messages by looking for encryption with relative ease. Therefore it should as well be possible to implement that with procmail, or sieve.
My only question is how to do that detection. As soon as I have that, I can adapt the procmail file myself.
Alas you're just adding useless noise. I get, that you''re trying to help.
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Delta Chat
in reply to 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽 • • •you can hook it into postfix like this: github.com/chatmail/relay/blob…
relay/cmdeploy/src/cmdeploy/postfix/master.cf.j2 at main · chatmail/relay
GitHub𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓸𝓯 𝓓𝓸𝓷𝓪𝓽
in reply to Delta Chat • • •@digitalprivacy
That's perfect. Exactly, what I was looking for, thank you very much.
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