On 4 May we remember all Dutch victims of war – civilians and military personnel – who have died in armed conflict or peace missions in the Kingdom of the Netherlands or further afield since the start of the Second World War.
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Janneke
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Oh! You're right! I never realized that we only remember (we're only supposed to remember) /Dutch/ casualties.
How interesting that I got this wrong all this time. Thinking that casualties of other nationalities would als be worth remembering. Silly me!
#actuallyautistic
stux⚡️
in reply to Janneke • • •Janneke
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Yeah, I also did this wrong all my life!
This is the main reason I decided not to join anymore a few years ago, mainly because of the genocide by the Israëli government that the Dutch government has been supporting. It felt like hypocrisy.
Turns out, hardly any Dutch casualties, so we can just keep on remembering the genocide from 80y ago, saying Never Again while the present day genocide continues! Great! /S
Fietsbel
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Everyone in the Netherlands is asked to observe two minutes' silence at 20.00,
Often cars stop on the side of the highway, busses halt, etc
Personally I find this very important, may we never forget nor repeat the past
Stefan Koopmanschap
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in reply to stux⚡️ • • •Liberation Day (Dutch: Bevrijdingsdag) is a national holiday in the Netherlands celebrated annually on May 5 to mark the end of the German occupation of the country during the Second World War.
It follows one day after the Remembrance of the Dead (Dodenherdenking) on 4 May.
Pavel Janíček
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •In Czechia, on 5th May we celebrate the start of the Czech resistance against Nazi forces. (Not a public holiday)
The liberation day (public holiday)used to be celebrated on May 9th, because of the heavy USSR influence
Even on May 9th 1945 there were fights going on in Czechoslovakia
May 8th is now officially a public holiday for the Liberation day
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stux⚡️
in reply to Pavel Janíček • • •@paveljanicek Aah! About the same here, fighting did not end in the whole country since many Nazi soldiers didn’t get the orders
So a part was liberated but other parts weren’t
Danielle
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •For safety, please check also the request by RWS, not to stop on the side of the highway.
social.overheid.nl/@RWSverkeer…
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stux⚡️
in reply to Danielle • • •@DanielleVossebeld Ah I had a strooong feeling this wasn’t legal indeed
Better to find a safe spot
Janet Grootebroeder
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •".. may we never forget nor repeat the past"
But we ARE repeating it, and if you want to say anything about it, you're called antisemitic, or they are talking about restricting protests. The whole Dodenherdenking is a farce as long as our government keeps supporting the Nazis of this time.
J$
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •I think it’s important too. Very.
I also find it hard to stomach the cynic hypocrisy of stuff like, actual nazi theory propagators laying flowers in remembrance of nazi horrors; of people that actively agitate against freedom of speech, have motioned outlawing resistance to fascism and siccing the state’s repressive machinery against demonstrators spouting off about “celebrating freedom”; …
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J$
in reply to J$ • • •2/2 … and much the same people going teary-eyed murmering “nooit meer” as they look away from or gaslight the nazi terror squads roaming the country in orchestrated fashion.
Important, but perfunctive theater is not the important bit. Recognizing the ascendency of fascism, its presence in our streets, entrenchment in our institutions, in our parliament, in our government is.
We need to fight fascism. Symbolic rituals? Fine, but if it’s just cynical theatre, then no.
stux⚡️
in reply to J$ • • •@js I understand and we still have a loong way to go
But for me it's different, I am looking back to the past. To the countless lives taken in an unknown land for our freedom today
The soldiers and civilians who died in those awful times but also what they had to endure for us to be here now
I don't care for rituals or whatever but i do care for those lost
LastOfThem
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Unknown parent • • •@Remittancegirl Every 4th may at 20:00 there is a national moment of silence for the fallen of the World Wars, everyone is asked to contribute to this
On the Dam in Amsterdam they always lay flowers
MiaK 🏴 🇵🇸
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •@Remittancegirl Seen this?
"In a press release of the activists they state they wanted to “confront the 4th of May Remembrance Day hypocrisy, where the Second World War is remembered but the silence about the ongoing genocide on the Palestinians is deafening. Later today the king and prime minister will lay down flowers at the monument, whilst the blood of the Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians are on their hands”
stux⚡️
in reply to MiaK 🏴 🇵🇸 • • •@MiaMarkTwo @Remittancegirl Yeah I don’t agree with this..
I am all against the wars, and we should offer a lot more help but this won’t help
They only create enemies this way, i would kick peoples assses if i see them do this
Madeleine Morris
in reply to MiaK 🏴 🇵🇸 • • •@MiaMarkTwo
And who pays for the costs of cleaning this up? Tax payers. And as a percent, the less you can afford it, the more you pay.
The people who profit from war are not the ones hurt in any way by this stunt.
stux⚡️
in reply to Madeleine Morris • • •@Remittancegirl @MiaMarkTwo Exactly indeed plus they hurt a looot of people by doing this
And not in a way that they want to help out, but go against it.. this is not the way
Although i do agree we should do a loooot more as a country
Taran Rampersad
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •on one side, I read the friction regarding who gets remembered. I understand that.
On the other side, I don't see the Dutch picking fights with their neighbors and those across the world who wear different religious garb...
So maybe the holiday served a good purpose before the world was as connected as it is now. Because the Dutch remember what it cost them.
I dunno. A passing 2 cents. I think it should adapt to the present and future. It seems like that is underway.