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Last weekend, I traveled to Las Vegas for @defcon 32, where I had the immense privilege of giving a solo talk on Track 1, entitled "Disenshittify or die! How hackers can seize the means of computation and build a new, good internet that is hardened against our asshole bosses' insatiable horniness for enshittification":

https://info.defcon.org/event/?id=54861

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TLDR: the street can’t find its own uses for things anymore, because everything has been made useless by design now. The suits are all out of ideas, with no way to get new ones, and their entire defense strategy— including the vast system of logistics that supports it— is organized around keeping everything useless by design for as long as possible, using nothing but sheer authoritarian brutality as their only tool, until they don’t have even that anymore.

It is not hard to see how that plan goes wrong for them.

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@CptSuperlative Also probably worth noting that Communications Workers of America (CWA) is the largest existing union that represents tech workers.
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Well, I was there "at the beginning" when we rejected "kings" and centralized sources of internet identity/authentication.

That was in keeping with the Internet evolving out of the hippie era Governments were considered bad.

But as I age I am thinking we made a mistake; that many of our internet woes arise out of our rejection of control over the net and the things that attach to it.

Certainly we don't want to go back to the notions of key escrow and other horrors of the past, but perhaps we do want to revisit our views of testing and qualification of things that attach to the net. Innovation at the edge is a good idea, but it we may have taken it too far.

(I would also throw a large mental brick at Milton F and the Chicago School of Economics for foisting the false, even illegal, notion that corporations are slaves to "shareholder value" - I am so sick of corporate Boards of Directors who do not understand their duties and instead screw the communities that give them legal life.)

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I'm not sure if any union represents workers at Microsoft. There's something going on re Activision and perhaps with contract companies but is there any union representation at Microsoft proper? Asking because I don't know and a quick search shows no union representation at Microsoft.

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I don't know about CWA at large, but I'm pretty sure they're basically a corporate puppet at places like Microsoft and don't do shit except let Microsoft pretend it's a "union shop".

I won't pretend to know or say anything about the union at large but at least at Microsoft the only people they seem to talk to are the bosses. Round after round of layoff, and you'd have no idea a union even existed there... because it pretty much doesn't.

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Hypothetically...

If you were a soulless tech ceo, and suddenly LLMs are being hyped like neon tulips, and major shareholders are clamouring for layoffs -

And you've been worrying because tech unionization efforts have been gaining ground lately -

Two birds, one stone?

Hmmm. I'm a little embarrassed to say that this is just now occurring to me.

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Yeah. Microsoft's union pledge is "we won't crush you" and they get article after article with headlines like this. Meanwhile, in reality... they are definitely not union friendly. And I do not trust any union that agrees to be "neutral".
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(I'm also trying to find the other post where you mentioned unionization has a lot of problems and people have to pick their battles and I wanted to say it made me think and those are all good points, but I can't quite find out)
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Should we be able to watch the talk at that link? (if so, it's not working for me)